The Future of Law Is Today

Straight talk on law, legal tech, and the future of the profession with experts on the practice of law, AI and other technology, legal operations, and education.Hosted by Ceschino Brooks_de_Vita, Harvard Law grad, ex-BigLaw attorney, legal tech / AI expert, and founder of The Legal Tech Guide.The Future of Law Is Today is the official podcast of The Legal Tech Guide (thelegaltechguide.com).

The Future of Law Is Today is a technology podcast hosted by Ceschino Brooks_de_Vita, with 20 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  Episode #21

  Preventing Midlife Burnout for Lawyers, ft. Soul Coach Benjamin O. Field | The Future of Law Is Today, Ep. 21

  Aug 15, 202637 min

  Summary Benjamin shares his transformative journey from a successful career in law to becoming a depth coach for high-performing professionals. He discusses the concept of depth coaching, emphasizing the importance of understanding the unconscious and the ego's role in personal development. The dialogue explores themes of midlife transitions, the search for meaning beyond external success, and the necessity of embracing imperfection in creativity. Benjamin also highlights the significance of recognizing life's mysteries and the interplay between our inner and outer worlds. Takeaways Benjamin transitioned from law to coaching high-performing professionals. He identifies as an anti-executive coach, focusing on those who feel stuck despite success. Depth coaching involves engaging with the unconscious to achieve personal growth. The ego plays a crucial role in how we perceive ourselves and our achievements. Burnout can signal a need for deeper change and self-exploration. Creativity often requires permission to be imperfect and messy. Life's challenges can be seen as opportunities for growth and self-discovery. The unconscious can manifest in our external experiences, often termed fate or luck. Midlife can be a time to reevaluate one's identity and purpose. Embracing the unknown can lead to unexpected and meaningful life paths. Chapters 00:00 From Law to Coaching: A Personal Journey 05:09 Understanding Depth Coaching and the Role of the Ego in Personal Development 10:21 Embracing Imperfection in Creativity and Expression of the True Self 13:37 What Causes Burnout and Midlife Crises 17:28 Finding Meaning Beyond Professional Success 21:18 How the Unconscious Connects to Life's Challenges and Opportunities 26:23 Living Authentically by Proactively Being True to Oneself 30:13 The Mystery: Embracing That Some Things Are Beyond Our Control Keywords Coaching, high achievers, midlife crisis, personal transformation, depth psychology, identity, purpose, mythology, somatic embodiment, professional success, personal development, meaning, creativity, self-discovery

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  Episode #20

  How Do We Train and Teach With AI? ft. Flits Founder Mathieu Bouillon | The Future of Law Is Today, Ep. 20

  Jul 15, 202636 min

  Summary Mathieu Bouillon starts the conversation by discussing the adoption of legal AI in Europe compared to the US, highlighting the emergence of legal tech startups and diminishing language barriers. Mathieu also addresses the impact of AI on legal education, stressing the importance of critical thinking and a hybrid approach to learning that incorporates both AI tools and traditional methods. Mathieu and Ceschino discuss the evolving landscape of professional skills in the age of AI, exploring the necessity of continuous learning and unlearning, the impact of AI on professional expertise, and the challenges of maintaining skill levels without becoming overly reliant on technology. The discussion also touches on the future of junior hiring and the importance of mentorship and human connection in a technology-driven world. Takeaways European law firms are adopting AI at a similar pace to US firms. Language barriers in legal tech are diminishing due to AI. AI can enhance productivity but may lead to skill decay and dependency, so skilled professionals must avoid using AI as a crutch. Critical thinking is essential in the age of AI. The future of legal work will involve both AI and human expertise, so legal education must adapt to include AI training. Quality output requires human creativity and critical thinking alongside AI. A hybrid approach to education is necessary for future lawyers. Change is the new normal, and professionals must adapt continuously. The illiterate of the 21st century will be those who cannot learn, unlearn, and relearn. The future of junior hiring may involve fewer positions due to AI efficiency. Mentorship and hands-on experience are crucial for junior professionals in the age of AI. Companies risk long-term viability by not hiring juniors. AI should be viewed as an assistant, not a replacement for human skills. Chapters 00:00 Matthew Bouillon's Journey in Law and AI 03:51 AI Adoption in Europe vs. the US 07:32 Building in Legal AI 10:37 AI's Impact on Legal Education and Training 18:44 The Importance of Adapting by Learning and Unlearning 20:04 AI's Impact on Experienced Professionals’ Skills 24:20 Avoiding AI Dependency While Using AI 27:50 The Future of Junior Hiring and Training in the AI Era 32:29 Keeping It Human: A Missed Opportunity Keywords AI, legal tech, law firms, education, organizational transformation, AI adoption, critical thinking, future of law, learning, professional development, junior hiring, productivity, creativity, mentorship, technology, legal practice, sustainable business practices, talent strategy, talent management

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  Episode #19

  An In-House Lawyer’s Perspective on Buying AI, ft. In-House Counsel Travis Zollner | The Future of Law Is Today, Ep. 19

  Jul 1, 202631 min

  Summary Travis Zollner joins Ceschino to discuss the frustration of navigating the legal AI world as a practicing lawyer looking for reliable solutions and clear information about what any given solution does and doesn’t do. Travis discusses the challenges and opportunities of integrating AI into legal workflows, emphasizing the importance of accuracy and the need for human oversight. The conversation explores the push for AI in legal settings and where it’s coming from, the risks associated with overrelying on AI without human oversight, and the necessity for transparency in AI solutions, marketing, and sales. Ultimately, the discussion highlights the balance between leveraging technology for efficiency while ensuring legal integrity. Takeaways Pressure to use and buy AI often comes without direction from leadership. AI can create efficiencies but also introduces risks — hallucinations remain a problem. Accuracy in AI outputs is a major concern for legal professionals. Human oversight is essential when using AI in legal work. The push for AI integration comes from a desire for efficiency, but the need to review every output compromises those gains. AI vendors often lack transparency about their solutions’ limitations. Legal teams need to understand in practical terms where AI can be beneficial and what its limits are. The importance of context in legal agreements cannot be overstated. Honesty in AI pitches is crucial for driving effective adoption. Chapters 00:00 Travis’s Career Journey 04:08 Navigating Legal Tech and AI as a Buyer 07:22 Where Is the Push for AI Coming From? 09:10 Understanding AI’s Limitations and Risks in Legal Work (Especially When You’re an AI) 14:12 A Call for Transparency in AI Product Pitches 19:09 Evaluating Risk at Scale 22:49 What Lawyers Want: The Perfect(ly Transparent) AI Pitch 27:02 Keeping It Human: Fantasy and Gaming Nerds Keywords legal tech, AI in law, buying AI, tech procurement, assessing vendors, in-house counsel, career journey, legal workflows, AI integration, accuracy in AI, human oversight, legal technology, future of law

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  Episode #18

  AI Negotiation Agents and the New Law Career, ft. Ozeki Founder Kenneth Carter | The Future of Law Is Today, Ep. 18

  Jun 15, 202631 min

  Summary Kenneth Carter shares his journey from being a lawyer to founding Ozeki, a legal tech company focused on automating and enhancing negotiation processes. He discusses the limitations of generative AI in legal contexts and introduces the concept of “artificial discretion” as a more effective approach. The conversation explores the nuances of negotiation strategies, the role of trust in negotiation, and the evolving landscape of legal careers in the face of automation, emphasizing the need for a multidisciplinary skill set in the future of law. The Future of Law Is Today is the official podcast of The Legal Tech Guide ( thelegaltechguide.com ). Takeaways Generative AI has limitations in legal applications due to its tendency to hallucinate. Effective negotiation requires understanding both parties' values and needs. AI can augment human negotiators rather than replace them. Negotiation is about creating value through trade-offs, not just redlining documents. Building trust in negotiations involves sharing selective information. A diverse skill set enhances problem-solving capabilities in law. Young and future lawyers should embrace multidisciplinary approaches to their careers. The legal profession is evolving with the tech. Creativity and adaptability are essential for success in the changing legal landscape. Chapters 00:00 From Lawyer to Founder: A Journey of Optimization 02:57 AI Beyond LLMs and Language Generation 04:41 Agentic AI: the New Frontier 11:18 Agentic Legal Tech to Automate Negotiation, Not Document Generation 14:03 Creating Value by Fixing the Broken Negotiation Process 19:52 Building Trust in Negotiations: The Indifference Curve 22:18 Coming Up With the Ozeki Name 24:24 Advice for New and Aspiring Lawyers: Embrace Multidisciplinarity 28:55 Keeping It Human: Modeling for a Children’s Book Keywords legal tech, AI, negotiation, law, future of law, legal careers, technology in law, discretion, negotiation strategies

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  Episode #17

  The Legal OS and Reshaping the Practice of Law, ft. 9to5 Founder Marla Calvert Miller and Legal Futurist Anastasia Boyko | The Future of Law Is Today, Ep. 17

  Jun 1, 202647 minS0

  <p>Summary</p><p>This episode explores an emerging concept in legal tech and AI: the legal operating system. 9to5 Legal Docs founder Marla Calvert Miller and legal futurist Anastasia Boyko share insights earned over a varied pair of careers in legal practice, legal tech, and legal education and training. They join Ceschino to discuss how AI and the concept of the legal OS are giving lawyers a chance to reshape legal services and rethink what they want their careers as lawyers to be. The discussion also addresses the importance of a systems-based approach to tech and legal operations, and...

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