
Episode #2
Surfer SEO Co-Founder: How to Win AI Search | Michal Suski
In this episode of The GEO Blueprint, Michał Suski, co-founder of Surfer SEO, breaks down Generative Engine Optimization (GEO) and how brands can rank inside AI search engines like ChatGPT, Perplexity, Claude, and Google AI Overviews. Learn why writing for AI requires a different mindset than writing for humans, how the token economy is shifting content strategy, why traditional link building metrics fail in AI search, and how to build a clear brand centroid to capture AI citations. Timestamps 00:00 - Intro 00:49 - Who is Michal and what does he do at Surfer? 03:02 - Writing for AI is easier 05:05 - 38% of AI citations come from the first 100 words 05:39 - GEO vs SEO — where they overlap and where they split 09:49 - Are there SEO practices that are actively hurting brands in AI search? 12:31 - How do you win in AI search — the 3 elements 15:07 - How to choose which third party sites to get published on 17:33 - Can a small company compete in AI search against a big brand? 20:24 - Does content freshness affect AI citation frequency? 22:41 - Source surplus — Wikipedia and Healthline as AI infrastructure 25:28 - Zero AI visibility — the one tactical advice 30:43 - Centroid — what AI knows about you and how to fix inconsistency 36:39 - Does strategy differ across ChatGPT, Gemini, AI Mode and Claude? 41:35 - What is uniquely valuable about the human mind? 43:59 - Execution is cheap now — ideas are valued more 46:41 - How to force AI to hallucinate and get original ideas 48:17 - How Michal uses AI in his own work — data analysis and repurposing 50:32 - Vibe coded his entire personal website with Claude 53:30 - LLM of choice — Claude Cowork for deep work, ChatGPT for coloring pages 54:18 - Outro Optimize for the Token Economy: AI search engines prioritize direct, concise answers. Data shows that 38% of citations pulled by AI come directly from the first 100 words of a page. PageRank ≠ Citation Frequency: High domain authority and traditional link-building metrics do not strongly correlate with how frequently an AI retrieves your domain as a source. Fix Your Brand Centroid: AI search models crawl your entire digital footprint—including social profiles, YouTube descriptions, websites, and schema markup—to understand who you are. Maintaining message consistency across these touchpoints builds a strong brand centroid. Leverage Third-Party Distribution: Placing brand mentions across frequently cited third-party sites helps act as your "sales team" inside AI retrieval engines. Surfer SEO: https://surferseo.com Michał Suski on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michal-suski/ Core Takeaways & GEO Strategies Connect & Resources#GEO #SEO #AISearch #SurferSEO #GenerativeEngineOptimization #ChatGPT #Perplexity #GoogleAIOverviews #ContentMarketing #DigitalMarketing

