
The Gifts of Trauma
What Running into the Fire Can Cost Firefighters, with Brandon Evans
Hosted by Kevin Young and J'aime Rothbard. Produced by J'aime Rothbard More than 15 years spent running into burning buildings taught him that the hardest fires to face are the ones that follow you home. In the first of our five-part First Responders Series, Kevin and J'aime sit down with Brandon, a retired Canadian Firefighter, to explore what it really costs to be the one who shows up for others on the worst days of their lives. Brandon explains: - Why 'mental fitness' is a more useful frame than 'mental health' for firefighters - What his international research (104 fire chiefs across five continents) revealed about the gap between how firefighters train for fire and how they train for their own mental health - How the firehouse storytelling tradition could become the fire service's most powerful teaching tool - The five pillars of Fire to Light, and what 'operationalizing wellness' actually looks like Brandon shares a raw and unflinching perspective on what it costs to be the one who runs toward the fire, and why "We're not broken, we just need to train differently" might be the most important reframe first responders need to hear. Join us to hear what can change when a firefighter stops surviving their career and starts training for it. About Brandon Evans Executive Director, Fire to Light Foundation, Founder & CEO, Fire to Light Brandon Evans is a retired firefighter and the Founder of Fire to Light, an organisation dedicated to advancing preventative Mental Fitness training inside the fire service. Drawing on lived experience and independent global research involving over 104 fire chiefs and leaders across 13 countries and 5 continents, Brandon developed the Fire to Light Mental Fitness Training System, a practical operationalised approach to training Mental Fitness the same way fire departments train every other critical skill. Through the Fire to Light Foundation, a registered Canadian charity of which Brandon serves as Executive Director, the goal is to make Mental Fitness training accessible to every fire department, removing barriers so that Mental Fitness is systemised and embedded into fire service operations worldwide. not treated as a clinical afterthought, but trained, reinforced, and owned at every level of the organisation. Brandon's mission is to help reduce rates of suicide and psychological injury in the fire service through an upstream approach of Mental Fitness Training, Fitness before Therapy. Promotional Messages: Compassionate Inquiry® Professional Training If you've been listening to our podcast and are curious about the Compassionate Inquiry approach developed by Doctor Gabor Maté and Sat Dharam Kaur, consider joining the Professional Training Program. It's open to all healing professionals, including naturopaths, physicians, body workers, coaches, and therapists. In addition to learning how to use compassion to support your clients in their most vulnerable moments with greater empathy and authenticity, you'll also deepen your own internal process. If you're interested, please tap this link to learn more. Suicide Attention Training The Compassionate Inquiry Suicide Attention Training is for therapists, health professionals and others working in therapeutic, healing, educational, medical, or coaching roles. If you're seeking sensitive training to help you recognize and support people in your communities who may be experiencing suicidal distress, please tap this link . It will take you to a web page where you can learn more about this training, and decide if it's a good fit for you. Resources: Websites: Fire to Light Foundation Fire to Light Website Support Fire to Light — Zeffy Fire to Light Research Study Crackyl Magazine Website Articles: Defining Resilience for Firefighters Firefighters and Mental Health: The Fear of Raising Your Hand The Current State of Mental Health in the Fire Service But There Is Nothing Wrong With Me Trauma: Who, What, Where, When and Why Podcasts: Upgrade Your Self Love (2025) Heroes are Also Human (2025) Transforming Challenges into Opportunities (2025) Brandon Evans - Fire to Light (2024) Discovering The Energy Of Love (2022) Videos: Firefighting and Mental Fitness (2025) Understanding Mental Health in the Fire Service (2024) Real Leadership Comes from Courage (2024) Don't Judge a Book (2024) Fire To Light with Brandon Evans (2024) How to Improve Your Mental Fitness (2023) Social Media: Facebook: Fire to Light Instagram: @firetolight_firefighters LinkedIn: Fire to Light Foundation






