Episode #24
The Lost Art of Listening with Dr. Pat Friman | The Gold Standard Podcast
What happens when behavior analysis becomes so focused on technical language that we lose sight of the person we're actually trying to reach? In this episode of the Gold Standard Podcast , we sit down with renowned behavior analyst and clinical psychologist Dr. Pat Friman for a wide-ranging conversation on communication, listening, clinical practice, mentorship, and the evolution of behavior analysis. Dr. Friman shares stories from the mentors who shaped his career, including Ed Christophersen and Don Baer, and explains why humor, storytelling, presentation skills, and ordinary language have played such an important role in his work. We also discuss one of his strongest clinical philosophies: listen all the way to the end. Dr. Friman explores why people often need to feel understood before they're ready to hear advice, how this applies to working with families and stakeholders, and why listening may be one of the most important skills a behavior analyst can develop. The conversation also covers the growing role of AI in behavior analysis, the importance of writing and presenting, compassion in clinical practice, and where the field may be headed next. A thoughtful conversation with one of the field's most distinctive voices—and one that goes well beyond the technical side of behavior analysis. #GoldStandardPodcast #BehaviorAnalysis #ABA #PatFriman #AppliedBehaviorAnalysis #BehaviorScience #ClinicalPsychology #BehaviorAnalyst #BCBA #Communication #Listening #BehaviorScience
