
The Heart Helper
Chasing God in All the Wrong Places: When the High Is Really a Hunger for the Holy
What if the person chasing the next high isn't chasing a drug at all? What if they're chasing God and just don't know it yet? In this episode of The Heart Helper Podcast, Jodie brings together neuroscience, counseling research, and Scripture to uncover a powerful truth: the same reward circuit in the brain that lights up when we feel God's presence is the one that substances hijack. The high is a counterfeit of the Holy. With more than 44 million Americans living with a substance use disorder, this conversation walks through four movements: how we were designed with eternity in our hearts, how addiction hijacks that longing, how a substance can quietly take God's place, and how grace, healing, and treatment can lead us back to the fountain of living waters. If you've ever reached for something to quiet the ache, this one is for you. How is your heart? If you or someone you love is struggling: SAMHSA National Helpline, 1-800-662-4357 (free, confidential, 24/7). In a crisis, call or text 988. References Crosland, C., & Imhoff, B. (2024). [Chapter title]. In [First initial]. King-Ford (Ed.), Christian integration in counselor education (pp. 235–257). Kendall Hunt. Ferguson, M. A., Nielsen, J. A., King, J. B., Dai, L., Giangrasso, D. M., Holman, R., Korenberg, J. R., & Anderson, J. S. (2018). Reward, salience, and attentional networks are activated by religious experience in devout Mormons. Social Neuroscience, 13 (1), 104–116. Jennings, T. R. (2017). The God-shaped brain: How changing your view of God transforms your life (Expanded ed.). InterVarsity Press. May, G. G. (1988). Addiction and grace: Love and spirituality in the healing of addictions . HarperCollins. Mohandas, E. (2008). Neurobiology of spirituality. Mens Sana Monographs, 6 (1), 63–80. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2026). Highlights for the 2025 National Survey on Drug Use and Health . https://www.samhsa.gov/data/sites/default/files/NSDUH-2025-Annual-Release/2025-nsduh-nnr-highlights.pdf Thompson, C. (2021). The soul of desire: Discovering the neuroscience of longing, beauty, and community . InterVarsity Press. The Holy Bible, English Standard Version. (2001). Crossway.

