Episode #2
IFP Pit Stop: Talking "Grunge! The Story of the Music That Redefined Rock" with author Gillian Gaar
This week the Indie 500 spins Screaming Trees' Dust from NME's 500 Greatest Albums of All Time. We're joined by music journalist and author Gillian G. Gaar, a longtime writer for The Rocket, Seattle's legendary free music paper, and a contributor to Mojo, Rolling Stone and Goldmine. Her new book, Grunge: The Story of the Music That Redefined Rock (Quarto), is out October 13, 2026. Gillian takes us inside The Rocket's offices in the years before grunge exploded. That was a Seattle of chainsaw-cut exit doors, punk shows at Elks lodges, and a 1984 poster that declared the local scene "found dead." She explains why Deep Six and Sub Pop 100 make 1986 the starting line, and how Jack Endino's cheap Reciprocal Recording became the scene's sound. She also looks at how Sub Pop's hype turned into self-fulfilling prophecy, and why Seattle bands helped each other instead of competing. From there we cover the pressure that money and major labels brought, the losses of the early '90s, the Soundgarden and Alice in Chains reunions, and the Pacific Northwest bands history skipped over. We also discuss why grunge may have been the last great organic music movement. Catch Gillian at Elliott Bay Book Company on Capitol Hill on October 14 (free, all ages), and later next month October 24th at her event in Aberdeen at Unplugged at The Music Project Chapters 0:37 Intro: Gillian G. Gaar and The Rocket 1:46 Who was G3? Writing for Backlash 6:24 Getting hired at The Rocket (thanks, Kate Bush) 10:32 Seattle's punk scene in 1979 13:57 "Seattle Scene Found Dead": the 1984 poster 16:15 Why 1986? Deep Six and Sub Pop 100 18:28 "A Bunch of Noises, All Distinct" 24:03 Why Seattle cooperated instead of competed 25:43 Black Flag, Big Black and touring punk 26:52 Jack Endino and Reciprocal Recording 28:39 Sub Pop, hype and "world domination" 34:11 Women and diversity in the early scene 40:44 When Nevermind hit #1 43:48 How money changed the scene 47:58 Grunge's "jump the shark" moment 52:30 "The best of times and the worst of times" 56:34 Grunge on the NME 500 list 59:13 The last organic music movement 62:23 Instant oatmeal trivia and the bucking spitting mummy cat 65:23 Collecting grunge memorabilia 69:55 Reunions: Soundgarden, Temple of the Dog, Mad Season 72:40 Overlooked Seattle records 78:32 The Indie 500 time machine 82:43 Book events and where to find Gillian Pre-order Grunge: The Story of the Music That Redefined Rock Elliott Bay Book Company event, Oct 14 Aberdeen event Unplugged at the Music Project Gillian on Instagram: Gillianthegaar X @Gilliangaar Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/GillianGaarWriter Thank you to Quarto Publishing for the complimentary copy of the book. There was no money exchanged and we were free to speak our minds on the book.
