The Neon Show

Hi, I am your host Siddhartha! I have been an entrepreneur from 2012-2017 building two products AddoDoc and Babygogo. After selling my company to SHEROES, I and my partner Nansi decided to start up again. But we felt unequipped in our skillset in 2018 to build a large company. We had known 0-1 journey from our startups but lacked the experience of building 1-10 journeys. Hence was born the Neon Show (Earlier 100x Entrepreneur) to learn from founders and investors, the mindset to scale yourself and your company. This quest still keeps us excited even after 5 years and doing 200+ episodes. We welcome you to our journey to understand what goes behind building a super successful company. Every episode is done with a very selfish motive, that I and Nansi should come out as a better entrepreneur and professional after absorbing the learnings.

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  Episode #387

  ChatGPT Killed My $50M ARR Business Overnight | Swapnil Jain Observe Al

  Aug 14, 20261h 8mS1

  Observe AI raised $125M from SoftBank at an $850M valuation, went on to cross $50M ARR, and worked with some of the world's largest enterprises. But after 10 months everything changed. From a growth stage startup, Observe became an early stage startup, not because they did anything wrong, but because world changed forever very fast. In this episode, Swapnil, Founder & CEO of Observe AI candidly shares what it takes to rebuild a company after you have already built it, why changing people and culture are harder than changing the product, why today's AI winners could disappear as the technology stack changes, and why he thinks we are still in the first innings of AI. This conversation is as much about AI as it is about a founder's drive to win. Chapter Markers 00:00 ChatGPT Made Our $850M Startup Irrelevant 00:38 From SaaS to AI Agents 04:30 Growing Fast, But Also Dying 07:36 Why VCs Bet $200M+ on Observe 09:26 FOMO Made Me a Founder 13:30 We Had Users, But No Buyers 15:27 Why BPOs Were the Wrong Market 17:26 “I’ll Never Sell in India” 22:30 YC Made Me Think Bigger 27:22 From $1M to $50M ARR 30:13 Building AI Before ChatGPT 31:11 The Birth of Observe 2.0 32:18 When ChatGPT Changed Everything 33:15 When AI Agents Take Over 34:58 Rebuilding a $50M ARR Product 35:47 When Co-Founders Leave 38:50 Will AI Actually Kill Support Jobs? 43:51 “AI ARR Is Not Real” 45:45 Most Pre-AI Companies Are Bloated 47:34 Learning GTM by Doing It 51:24 Changing Product Is The Easy Part 58:29 Why Voice AI Is Just the Beginning 01:01:25 The Founder Playbook 01:04:10 What Makes a Great Product? 01:05:37 “I’m Here to Win” ------------- India’s talent has built the world’s tech—now it’s time to lead it. This mission goes beyond startups. It’s about shifting the center of gravity in global tech to include the brilliance rising from India. What is Neon Fund? We invest in seed and early-stage founders from India and the diaspora building world-class Enterprise AI companies. We bring capital, conviction, and a community that’s done it before. Subscribe for real founder stories, investor perspectives, economist breakdowns, and a behind-the-scenes look at how we’re doing it all at Neon. ------------- Check us out on: Website: https://neon.fund/ Instagram: / theneonshoww LinkedIn: / beneon Twitter: https://x.com/TheNeonShoww Connect with Siddhartha on: LinkedIn: / siddharthaahluwalia Twitter: https://x.com/siddharthaa7 ------------- This video is for informational purposes only. The views expressed are those of the individuals quoted and do not constitute professional advice. Send us Fan Mail

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  Episode #386

  The Al Lab Founder Who Sees The Future First | Karan Goel, Founder & CEO of Cartesia

  Aug 7, 202659 minS1

  Karan is the co-founder and CEO of Cartesia, an AI model lab building the next generation of real-time voice intelligence. In this episode, Karan explains what all goes into building an AI Lab company; from massive datasets to pre-training to post-training to inference engines, plus a heavy dose of relentless evaluation, and obsession with every layer of the stack. We also discuss why existing AI benchmarks are not very helpful, why latency is voice AI’s biggest enemy, and why maintaining context across long conversations is one of the hardest unsolved problems. Apart from the cutting edge tech, this conversation explores Karan’s journey from researcher to founder, building Cartesia with a five-person founding team, raising capital, and realizing why first-time founders waste years focusing on things that ultimately don’t matter. If you want a glimpse into the future of AI, watch this episode. 00:00 Trailer 01:35 From DPS to Stanford to Cartesia 02:35 From Counter-Strike to AI 04:28 Another Research Paper Wasn’t Enough 06:48 The Story Behind “Cartesia” 07:17 Building a Company With Five Technical Founders 09:55 From Research Project to Startup 13:54 Cartesia’s Audacious Vision for 2035 15:07 What It Takes to Build an AI Model Company 18:55 Why Faster AI Doesn’t Have to Be Worse 24:12 AI Still Has a Memory Problem 27:14 Why Context Builds Trust 27:50 Will AI Replace Entire Account Teams? 29:16 Hold Music Is Now a Salesman 30:30 Designing AI That Feels Personal 31:31 Building With Cartesia 34:48 Voice AI’s Enemy #1: Latency 38:50 Why AI Labs See the Future First 41:32 Finding Product Market Fit 45:34 Great Products Don’t Need Much Marketing 48:12 Very Few Things Matter 52:26 How Big Can Voice AI Get 55:53 Fundraising And Mission 58:15 What Cartesia Is Ultimately Building ------------- India’s talent has built the world’s tech—now it’s time to lead it. This mission goes beyond startups. It’s about shifting the centre of gravity in global tech to include the brilliance rising from India. What is Neon Fund? We invest in seed and early-stage founders from India and the diaspora building world-class enterprise AI companies. We bring capital, conviction, and a community that’s done it before. Subscribe for real founder stories, investor perspectives, economist breakdowns, and a behind-the-scenes look at how we’re doing it all at Neon. ------------- Check us out on: Website: https://neon.fund/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theneonshoww/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beneon/ Twitter: https://x.com/TheNeonShoww Connect with Siddhartha on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddharthaahluwalia/ Twitter: https://x.com/siddharthaa7 ------------- This video is for informational purposes only. The views expressed are those of the individuals quoted and do not constitute professional advice. Send us Fan Mail

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  Episode #385

  Is Your Startup Model Proof? Vijay Krishnan Turing Founder & CTO On What Startups Should Build to Win

  Jul 31, 20261h 19mS1

  What if the company quietly making OpenAI, Google, Anthropic, and Meta's models smarter was founded in India? Turing is one of the companies shaping how AI is advancing. It started in 2018 as a talent platform that found the top 1% of the world's engineers, became a unicorn in 2021, and then made a bet almost nobody understood at the time. In early 2022, long before ChatGPT existed, Turing began helping OpenAI improve its models by feeding human expertise directly into training. Today its network of more than four million vetted engineers and domain experts powers the post-training and evaluation work behind the frontier labs, and the company crossed roughly 300 million dollars in revenue while staying profitable, at a 2.2 billion dollar valuation. Vijay Krishnan is the co-founder and CTO. He was an NLP researcher at Stanford back when almost no one believed that predicting the next word could ever turn into reasoning, and he explains why running a modern model company without human-in-the-loop data is like entering a race with three tyres instead of four. He walks through how a model is actually taught to use software like Salesforce, why coding became the beachhead for every lab, and what changed for Turing the moment Scale AI was absorbed into Meta. The conversation then turns to the question every founder is now asked in the room. What is your moat against Claude? Vijay's answer is to go deeper than the frontier labs can reach, into the outcome you own and the context that lives inside an enterprise. If you are excited about how AI actually gets built, who really trains the models, and how to build a company that survives the labs, this episode is for you. 00:00 - Trailer 02:20 - The Indian company quietly behind OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic 04:50 - How Turing went from a talent platform to a unicorn to an AI research partner 08:20 - The bet nobody understood 11:50 - Why a model company without human data is "racing on three tyres" 15:50 - Why coding became the beachhead for every frontier lab 19:50 - What changed for Turing the day Meta bought Scale AI 23:50 - "What is your moat against Claude?" 29:50 - Will AI create more lawyers, not fewer? 34:50 - The teams where engineers haven't written code in six months 39:50 - 16% of the Philippines' GDP is under threat from AI? 43:50 - How you actually teach a model to use Salesforce 49:50 - How robots are taught real-world work 54:50 - Why million-dollar researcher packages are breaking startup hiring 59:50 - The one kind of AI company that gets stronger as the models improve 1:04:50 - Product vs. services, and the trap that quietly kills AI startups ------------- India’s talent has built the world’s tech—now it’s time to lead it. This mission goes beyond startups. It’s about shifting the centre of gravity in global tech to include the brilliance rising from India. What is Neon Fund? We invest in seed and early-stage founders from India and the diaspora building world-class enterprise AI companies. We bring capital, conviction, and a community that’s done it before. Subscribe for real founder stories, investor perspectives, economist breakdowns, and a behind-the-scenes look at how we’re doing it all at Neon. ------------- Check us out on: Website: https://neon.fund/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theneonshoww/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beneon/ Twitter: https://x.com/TheNeonShoww Connect with Siddhartha on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddharthaahluwalia/ Twitter: https://x.com/siddharthaa7 ------------- This video is for informational purposes only. The views expressed are those of the individuals quoted and do not constitute professional advice. Send us Fan Mail

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  Episode #384

  How 1% Stay Rich - What India's Richest Families Do With Their Money That 99% Don't | Rohit Sarin, Client Associates

  Jul 28, 202654 minS1

  How do India's wealthiest families actually manage their money, and why does the man who looks after roughly ₹50,000 crore of it own zero stocks himself? Rohit Sarin is the co-founder of Client Associates, which he started in 2002 as India's first multi-family office and has grown into the largest in the country, managing around ₹50,000 crore for more than 1,100 wealthy families. The firm acts as a personal CFO for a family's entire wealth, doing for a household what a finance chief does for a company. He built it the hard way. He left a senior banking career at Deutsche Bank and Kotak, walked away from a full salary into a negative net worth, and took no salary in the first year so every rupee could go into building revenue. The firm's first working machine was an old computer he won at a Deutsche Bank auction. His most contrarian view is about how ordinary Indians treat the markets. He believes trading is a zero-sum game, and the data backs him. A SEBI study found that 93 per cent of individual F&O traders lost money over three years, worth more than ₹1.8 lakh crore, with only about one per cent earning a meaningful profit. Rohit made money on seven of ten trades and still ended underwater because the three losses wiped out all seven gains, so he closed his demat account entirely. He reads the AI boom the same way, as a bubble much like the dot-com era where a rare Amazon survives, and points to Byju's as a reminder of what happens when growth runs ahead of discipline. What the rich do differently is stay patient. They spend on their needs and rarely on their wants, and their real goal is to stay rich across generations rather than to get rich quickly. His own line for it is that wealth is a gift given by the impatient to the patient. He is equally clear that this is India's century, that the country has just crossed the income level where consumption compounds, and that the next ten years may be its best for anyone who starts investing early. He lays it all out in his book, Unlocking Wealth: Secrets to Getting Rich at Any Age. If you are excited about how India's richest families think about money and where India's next decade is headed, this episode is for you. 00:00 - Trailer 01:50 - The personal CFO for India's richest families 03:50 - Quitting a full salary for a negative net worth 05:20 - The old computer he won at a Deutsche Bank auction 06:50 - The first clients and the two crore bar he borrowed from Merrill 09:20 - How many dollar-millionaires India really has 11:50 - The income level where a country's wealth suddenly compounds 14:20 - What is really driving India's wealth creation 16:50 - How old-money families decide who controls the wealth 19:50 - The tech gap that changed who leads a family office 22:50 - Is the AI boom just the dotcom bubble again 26:50 - Why he is telling family offices to sit out AI for now 30:50 - The asset classes the ultra-rich actually hold 33:50 - Why the rich are moving money beyond India 37:50 - The one thing the ultra-rich do that the 99% do not 41:50 - His relationship with wealth, and needs versus wants 44:50 - Advice to first-generation founders who just got rich 48:50 - Why this is India's century and its best decade 52:50 - 93% lose money trading, and the demat account he closed 55:50 - The book he wrote for every young Indian 57:50 - Rapid fire: the best investment he has ever made ------------- India’s talent has built the world’s tech—now it’s time to lead it. This mission goes beyond startups. It’s about shifting the centre of gravity in global tech to include the brilliance rising from India. What is Neon Fund? We invest in seed and early-stage founders from India and the diaspora building world-class enterprise AI companies. We bring capital, conviction, and a community that’s done it before. Subscribe for real founder stories, investor perspectives, economist breakdowns, and a behind-the-scenes look at how we’re doing it all at Neon. ------------- Check us out on: Website: https://neon.fund/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theneonshoww/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beneon/ Twitter: https://x.com/TheNeonShoww Connect with Siddhartha on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddharthaahluwalia/ Twitter: https://x.com/siddharthaa7 ------------- This video is for informational purposes only. The views expressed are those of the individuals quoted and do not constitute professional advice. Send us Fan Mail

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  Episode #383

  Why Even With Great Products AI Startups Lose with 3x Founder Mahesh Ram, ex-Zoom AI

  Jul 24, 20261h 12mS1

  What does a founder learn from watching the CEO of a 32 billion dollar company make his biggest AI bets from the inside? Mahesh Ram has built and sold three companies. Thomson Reuters acquired his first, GlobalEnglish went to Pearson after teaching English to more than ten million people at companies like IBM and HP, and Solvvy, one of the first conversational AI companies, was bought by Zoom in 2022. He then spent two and a half years heading AI products at Zoom, sitting beside founder Eric Yuan as the company raced Microsoft into the AI era. In this conversation, Mahesh takes apart the three decisions that put Zoom ahead. Eric refused to charge for AI Companion because he believed everyone in the world should have AI, he publicly promised to never train models on customer data; and he built a model-agnostic layer instead of betting the company on any single lab. Zoom shipped weeks before Microsoft Copilot. Mahesh also shares the operating habits that made it possible, from the five-part rule Eric demands on every decision to the radical transparency that turned his own team into owners. He is just as direct about the question every founder now asks: whether OpenAI or Anthropic will simply take their market. He answers that the model companies cannot see the hundreds of custom applications running quietly inside every enterprise, so the durable business is the one that owns the messy, multi-party workflows they will never touch. On the wider fear that AI will kill SaaS, he thinks the shift is real but that Silicon Valley badly overestimates how fast it arrives, which leaves a huge opening for founders willing to go out and become the educators their market trusts. He closes on what he has learned selling three companies, why the best ones are bought and never sold, and the community of Indian origin founders he now runs that grew from three hundred people to more than two thousand in a single year. If you are excited about building enduring AI and software companies, this episode is for you. 00:00 - Trailer 01:27 - The three time founder who keeps destroying complexity 03:08 - Two billion people learning English with no teacher 04:45 - Building conversational AI before anyone knew what AI was 07:21 - How Zoom came to acquire Solvvy 11:08 - Working with Eric Yuan, a true force of nature 13:43 - The three bold AI bets that beat Microsoft to market 15:09 - Why Eric made Zoom's AI free and refused to touch your data 17:29 - The five part rule Eric demands on every decision 21:25 - Radical transparency: share everything except one thing 23:32 - What Mahesh would build differently today 29:05 - The moat question: how do you survive OpenAI and Anthropic 35:33 - What Claude and OpenAI can never see inside a company 41:01 - Will AI kill SaaS? And why Silicon Valley is too early 42:25 - Become the educator: the biggest opening for founders 45:39 - The Indian founder community that 10x'd in a year 52:43 - Where the founder DNA actually came from 1:00:42 - Why he has no regrets building Solvvy too early 1:01:57 - What actually gets a startup acquired 1:05:14 - Why you keep the acquisition circle very tight 1:07:47 - The real job in enterprise sales: get your buyer promoted ------------- India’s talent has built the world’s tech—now it’s time to lead it. This mission goes beyond startups. It’s about shifting the centre of gravity in global tech to include the brilliance rising from India. What is Neon Fund? We invest in seed and early-stage founders from India and the diaspora building world-class enterprise AI companies. We bring capital, conviction, and a community that’s done it before. Subscribe for real founder stories, investor perspectives, economist breakdowns, and a behind-the-scenes look at how we’re doing it all at Neon. ------------- Check us out on: Website: https://neon.fund/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theneonshoww/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/beneon/ Twitter: https://x.com/TheNeonShoww Connect with Siddhartha on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/siddharthaahluwalia/ Twitter: https://x.com/siddharthaa7 ------------- This video is for informational purposes only. The views expressed are those of the individuals quoted and do not constitute professional advice. Send us Fan Mail

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