The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast

By Humans for Humans, No AI Generated ContentMr. NHI hosts and shares the voices shaping the future of Non-Human & Agentic AI Identity.SME discussions, webinars, keynotes and panel sessions from conferences, summits and workshops and much more.

The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast is a technology podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 94 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80.

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  Episode #19

  Alex Bovee is Mr NHI's Human Identity In The Hot Seat

  Sep 22, 202611 minS1

  AI Agents Are Non-Deterministic, Non-Trustable — and Already in Your Production Environment Alex Bovee, CEO and Co-Founder of C1.ai and former security product leader at Okta, faces Mr. NHI's Human Identity in the Hot Seat — 10 machine-speed questions on IAM, agentic AI security, non-human identity, and the future of the digital workforce. ───────────────────────────────────── KEY TAKEAWAYS Identity security was built for humans using SaaS apps — that world no longer exists The surface area of the enterprise has fundamentally exploded with agentic AI Everyone is a builder now — and the world is very, very messy IAM for AI is the bigger imperative over AI for IAM AI agents are being deployed into production without security guardrails — 100% Agentic AI security and NHI security aren't the same thing Agents are non-deterministic and non-trustable — unlike humans and unlike software AI agents already create and provision other identities — and that's not necessarily bad, but it needs control points The insider threat has been amplified by agentic AI — UEBA is making a comeback Would Alex trust an AI agent to make a decision impacting his own security? No. ───────────────────────────────────── CHAPTERS Introduction [00:00] Have We Built Identity Security for a World That No Longer Exists? [00:18] Are CISOs Ready for the Fleet of Autonomous Digital Employees? [01:25] Is IAM for AI More Important Than AI for IAM? [02:47] Are AI Agents Being Deployed Into Production Without Security Guardrails? [04:08] Does Agentic AI Security Equal NHI Security? [04:16] Do AI Agents Behave More Like Employees or Software? [05:40] Do Agents Need Background Checks Like Humans? [08:21] Should AI Agents Be Allowed to Create and Provision Other Identities? [08:51] Will the AI Agent Digital Workforce Lead to Mass Unemployment? [09:24] Would You Trust an AI Agent to Make a Decision Impacting Your Own Security? [10:52] ───────────────────────────────────── RESOURCES NHI Knowledge Centre: nhimg.org C1: c1.ai ───────────────────────────────────── From The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast #CyberSecurity #NonHumanIdentity #IAM #AIAgents #IdentitySecurity #AgenticAI #ZeroTrust #DigitalIdentity #NHI #MachineIdentity #IdentityGovernance #CISO #RuntimeAuthorization #AgenticSecurity #ServiceAccounts #APIKeySecurity #InsiderThreat #AccessManagement #C1AI #MrNHI

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  Episode #15

  Ep # 15 - Identity is the 3rd Generation of Security

  Sep 22, 202648 minS1

  Identity is the 3rd Generation of Security Identity security, IAM, and agentic AI are colliding — and the old world of network perimeters and endpoint controls can no longer keep up. Alex Bovee, CEO and Co-Founder of C1.ai and former security product leader at Okta, joins Lalit Choda (Mr. NHI) on the Non-Human and AI Identity Podcast to map out how we got here — from network-centric perimeters to endpoint security controls to identity as the new security control plane — and what the third generation of cybersecurity actually has to look like when AI agents are non-deterministic, goal-maxing, and completely without a moral compass. The conversation covers why visibility alone won't save you, why AI agents are already creating their own credentials and API keys without security guardrails, and why the only way to truly operate at machine speed is to let agents evaluate other agents — a mindset shift most CISOs and security leaders aren't ready for. ───────────────────────────────────── WHAT YOU'LL LEARN Why the first two generations of security — network security and endpoint security — have reached their limits Why identity security is the only control plane that works across human identities, non-human identities (NHIs), and AI agents Why AI agents are non-deterministic and non-trustable — and what that means for IAM and access control Why runtime authorization must replace orchestration-based identity governance and access management Why visibility into your NHI and machine identity estate is not enough without full lifecycle management Why agents evaluating other agents is an inevitable part of agentic AI security at machine speed How to think about the four control points for agentic workloads: harness, data and context, LLM inference endpoints, and credentials ───────────────────────────────────── KEY MOMENTS Introduction & Meet Alex [00:00–01:10] Mr. NHI's Human Identity in the Hot Seat [01:10–12:14] The 3 Generations of Security: Network, Endpoint, Identity [12:25–17:20] Why Identity is the New Cybersecurity Control Plane [17:20–20:20] From Orchestration to Runtime: The Shift That Changes Everything [20:20–23:05] NHI Technical Debt & Credential Lifecycle Management [23:05–30:25] Agents Evaluating Agents: The Machine-Speed Imperative [30:25–34:45] C1's Architecture: 4 Control Points for the Agentic Enterprise [34:45–40:10] Enabling AI Builders Without Compromising Zero Trust Security [40:10–43:05] C1 Transform — October 6th, San Francisco [43:05–46:30] Closing Thoughts for CISOs and Security Leaders [46:30–47:28] ───────────────────────────────────── RESOURCES NHI Knowledge Centre: nhimg.org C1: c1.ai C1 Transform: c1.ai/transform ───────────────────────────────────── #NHI #NonHumanIdentity #AIAgents #AgenticAI #IdentitySecurity #MrNHI #DigitalIdentity #IAM #ZeroTrust #RuntimeAuthorization #IdentityManagement #AgenticSecurity #Cybersecurity #MachineIdentity #CISO #CredentialSecurity #AccessManagement #IdentityGovernance #PAM #ServiceAccounts #APIKeySecurity #ArtificialIntelligence #AgentSecurity

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  Episode #18

  Henrique Teixeira is Mr NHI's Human Identity In The Hot Seat

  Sep 15, 20266 minS1

  Identity security was built for a human world — but AI agents are changing the rules.AI agents are being deployed faster than organisations can govern them, while the security controls built for human identities don’t always translate to autonomous systems. So what happens when agents start creating identities, need to be terminated, and become part of a rapidly expanding attack surface? Key Takeaways:* Identity security was built primarily around humans — and the world has changed* Agentic AI security and NHI security aren't the same thing* AI agents may behave more like employees than software* AI agents could create and provision other identities as part of their productivity* Organisations are deploying AI faster than they can govern it* Generating AI content is cheap — validating it isn't* The attack surface created by thousands of agents is being underestimatedHenrique, SVP of Strategy at Saviynt, answers 9 machine-speed questions on AI agents, NHI security, identity governance, the future of work, and the growing attack surface created by autonomous agents.From The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast ️⏱ Chapters:00:00 Introduction00:15 Have We Built Identity Security for a World That No Longer Exists?00:29 Does Agentic AI Security Equal NHI Security?01:14 Do AI Agents Behave More Like Employees or Software?01:28 Should AI Agents Be Allowed to Create Other Identities?01:49 Will AI Agents Eventually Need to Be Fired?02:12 Is IM for AI More Important Than AI for IM?02:36 Are Organisations Deploying AI Faster Than They Can Govern It?02:44 Will the AI Agent Digital Workforce Lead to Mass Unemployment?05:47 Are We Underestimating the Attack Surface Created by Thousands of Agents?#CyberSecurity #NonHumanIdentity #IAM #AIAgents #IdentitySecurity #AgenticAI #ZeroTrust #DigitalIdentity #NHI #MachineIdentity #IdentityGovernance #CISO

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  Episode #14

  Ep # 14 - Turning an AI Breach into a Case Study

  Sep 15, 202648 minS1

  Identity security was built for a human world — but that world is changing fast.As organisations enter the agentic AI era, non-human identities, AI agents, credentials and autonomous access are creating a new set of security challenges. But Henrique argues that the industry shouldn't throw away decades of identity knowledge — it should apply it more intelligently to this new era.Henrique, SVP of Strategy at Saviynt and former Gartner analyst, joins Mr. NHI to discuss what the last decade of breaches has taught us, why identity remains the common denominator in the attack chain, and why organisations need to rethink how they approach NHI and AI identity.The conversation also explores the growing technical debt around API keys, service accounts and OAuth tokens, why AI security has become an undefined "goo" of overlapping categories, and why organisations should build a broader identity programme covering humans, NHIs and AI agents.What you'll learn:* Why traditional identity security was built primarily around humans* Why agentic AI security and NHI security aren't necessarily the same thing* Why AI agents may behave more like employees than software* Why organisations need to assume breach and focus on detection and recovery* How decades of NHI technical debt are creating new attack opportunities* Why identity remains a common denominator throughout the attack chain* Why organisations should build one identity programme covering humans, NHIs and AI agents* Why clear taxonomy matters in the increasingly confusing AI security market* How runtime access control and intent-aware authorization could change AI security* What the Hugging Face incident teaches us about NHI riskKey MomentsIntroduction & Meet Henrique [00:00–03:11]Mr. NHI's Human Identity in the Hot Seat [03:11–09:42]Turning a Breach into a Case Study [09:42–14:35]Why Identity Is the Common Denominator in Every Attack [14:35–16:15]Why AI Security Has Become “Goo” [16:15–19:40]The NHI Technical Debt Problem [20:06–25:20]Building an Identity Programme for Humans, NHIs & AI [23:31–29:36]Saviynt's Zuma: Insights, Access & Governance [29:36–32:09]Runtime Authorization & Intent-Aware Access [32:10–34:23]The Hugging Face Lesson & Closing Advice [34:23–38:07] NHI Knowledge Centre: nhimg.org Saviynt: saviynt.com#cybersecurity #nonhumanidentity #iam #aiagents #agenticsecurity #agenticai #identitysecurity #zerotrust #digitalidentity #nhi #artificialintelligence #ai #ciso #machineidentity #Saviynt

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  The Non-Human & AI Identity Podcast

  NHI & AI Identity Summit : The Next 24 Months

  Sep 7, 202626 min

  What will the NHI and agentic AI security landscape look like over the next 24 months?In the final panel from the NHI & AI Identity Summit at Identiverse 2026 (IDV 2026), industry leaders make predictions about where Non-Human Identity and agentic AI security are heading — and which identity and security controls may struggle as autonomous systems scale.The discussion explores autonomous agents, delegation chains, ephemeral identities, emerging attack paths, regulation, governance, shared signals and the growing need for visibility across agentic environments.Speakers:Lalit Choda — CEO & Founder, NHI Mgmt GroupAmir Ofek — Co-Founder & CEO, AizomeEve Maler — Founder, Venn FactoryJohn Yeoh — Chief Security Officer, CSAWhat You’ll Learn:• Where NHI and agentic AI security could go over the next 24 months• Which identity and security controls may break first as agents scale• How autonomous and ephemeral agents change identity lifecycle management• Why delegation chains and agent-to-agent interactions create new risks• How regulation and liability may evolve around AI systems• Why visibility and inventory are foundational to governing agentic environmentsChapters:00:00–03:58 — The Next 24 Months: What Comes Next?03:58–08:24 — How Agentic AI Changes the Security Landscape08:24–11:26 — New Attack Paths & Unpredictable Agent Behaviour11:26–14:26 — Which Identity Controls Break First?14:26–17:26 — Ephemeral Agents, Lifecycle & Delegation17:26–20:24 — The Key Controls for an Agentic World20:24–23:22 — Governance, Shared Signals & Visibility23:22–25:58 — The Road Ahead for NHI & Agentic AI SecurityThe NHI & AI Identity Summit at IDV 2026 brings together identity, IAM, cybersecurity and AI security leaders to explore how Non-Human Identities and agentic AI are reshaping enterprise security.Subscribe for more sessions from the NHI & AI Identity Summit at IDV 2026.#NHI #NonHumanIdentity #AgenticAI #AIIdentity #IdentitySecurity #IAM #Cybersecurity #IDV2026

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