The Pair Program is a podcast from hatch I.T. that brings you inside candid, unfiltered conversations with the innovators building mission-driven technology. Hosted by Tim Winkler, Founder & CEO of hatch I.T., the show pairs two guests per episode from across startups, venture capital, government, and industry to explore how ideas turn into products, how partnerships actually form, and how talent powers innovation in high-stakes environments. The show features a rotating co-host format designed to match the conversation to the mission: • Mike Gruen joins Tim for episodes centered on commercial product startups, product strategy, engineering leadership, and scaling modern software companies. • Sean Leahy joins Tim for episodes focused on defense, national security, and critical infrastructure. Across defense, healthcare, cybersecurity, energy, manufacturing, space, and emerging tech, The Pair Program is built around one simple idea: Two perspectives. One mission. Rather than surface-level takes, each episode digs into real decisions, real tradeoffs, and real stories behind scaling technology in complex environments, from dual-use startups and venture investment to government adoption and talent strategy. Whether you are a founder, operator, investor, or technologist working on problems that matter, The Pair Program gives you a front-row seat to the conversations shaping the future. New episodes drop regularly. Follow along wherever you listen to podcasts and on LinkedIn for clips, insights, and updates. 🚀 Sign-Up for our weekly Newsletter: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/ 🤖 Check Out our community: http://myhatchpad.com/ Follow us on Social Media!! LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/showcase/hatchpadcommunity/ Twitter - https://twitter.com/my_hatchpad YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@hatchpad1444
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How modern defense technology companies get capabilities into the hands of end users | The Pair Program Ep100
Jul 28, 20261h 6m
How modern defense technology companies get capabilities into the hands of end users | The Pair Program Ep100 This week on The Pair Program, we’re joined by Nick LaRovere, Co-Founder & CEO of Pryzm, and Allie Coukos, Partnerships Lead at Onebrief, for a conversation on how AI is transforming the defense technology ecosystem. Together, they explore the evolution of federal business development, why startups have more opportunities than ever to enter the government market, and how strategic partnerships are becoming a key driver of innovation. Key topics covered: Why defense tech is becoming more accessible to startups than ever before How AI is transforming federal business development, capture, and teaming strategies The shift from compliance-driven procurement to delivering mission outcomes Why context, not just data, is the next competitive advantage for AI How startups and prime contractors can build successful partnerships instead of competing head-to-head Why AI literacy and prompt engineering are becoming essential skills for defense professionals About Nick LaRovere: Nick is Co-Founder and CEO of Pryzm, an AI platform helping companies navigate federal business development and acquisition. Before founding Pryzm, he worked at Palantir and Tesla. He holds degrees from Johns Hopkins University and Colby College. About Allie Coukos: Allie is Partnerships Lead at Onebrief, where she focuses on building strategic partnerships across defense and national security. Previously, she worked at Deloitte advising technology and government clients. She earned her MBA from Dartmouth’s Tuck School of Business. This episode is supported by Defense Unicorns Defense Unicorns builds platform technologies that help deliver mission-critical capabilities faster and more reliably. Their open architecture approach enables secure, scalable systems without vendor lock, creating flexibility across the software ecosystem. Backed by a team of engineers, innovators, and veterans, they bring deep experience across defense and federal tech. Get in touch at hello@defenseunicorns.com Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/
Beyond the Quantum Hype: Real Applications, Real Results | The Pair Program Ep99
Jul 14, 20261h 14m
Beyond the Quantum Hype: Real Applications, Real Results | The Pair Program Ep99 What happens when traditional computing reaches its limits? In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Martin Sajon and Bill Collier to explore how quantum computing is moving from theory to real-world applications. They discuss where quantum is already delivering value, why it works best alongside AI rather than replacing it, and how organizations can begin preparing for the next wave of innovation. From logistics and cybersecurity to predictive intelligence and emerging startup opportunities, this conversation breaks down what quantum means today—and why it’s a space worth paying attention to. In this episode, we discuss: Where quantum computing is already solving real-world problems. Why AI and quantum are more complementary than competitive. How adaptive AI models can improve decision-making in complex environments. What founders and investors should know about the current state of quantum technology. Why businesses should start preparing for the future of post-quantum cybersecurity. About Martin Sajon: Martin is the Co-Founder and CEO of q99, where he is building quantum-enhanced AI solutions for complex decision-making. A multi-exit founder with more than 20 years of experience in cybersecurity, he is focused on helping organizations unlock the potential of quantum computing and artificial intelligence. About Bill Collier: Bill is a Principal at Noblis Ventures, where he focuses on investing in and supporting early-stage frontier technology companies. He works closely with founders across AI, defense, cybersecurity, and other emerging technologies, helping bridge commercial innovation and government applications. This episode is supported by Defense Unicorns Defense Unicorns builds platform technologies that help deliver mission-critical capabilities faster and more reliably. Their open architecture approach enables secure, scalable systems without vendor lock, creating flexibility across the software ecosystem. Backed by a team of engineers, innovators, and veterans, they bring deep experience across defense and federal tech. Get in touch at hello@defenseunicorns.com Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/
Built for Pressure: What a 15-Year-Old Professional Muay Thai Fighter Can Teach You About Performing When It Matters
Jul 7, 202636 min
Built for Pressure: What a 15-Year-Old Professional Muay Thai Fighter Can Teach You About Performing When It Matters This special bonus episode explores a different kind of high-performance journey. Today’s guest is Elijah Hinzman, a 15-year-old professional Muay Thai fighter competing on some of Southeast Asia’s biggest stages. While his arena is the ring, the qualities behind his success are the same ones we often explore on this show: discipline, preparation, resilience, and performing under pressure. Elijah shares the mindset that has helped him pursue excellence at such a young age, offering lessons that resonate far beyond combat sports. From the ring to everyday leadership, we explore: How preparation becomes confidence under pressure The sacrifices required to pursue excellence at a young age Turning losses into opportunities for growth Building resilience through discipline and consistency The role of family, humility, and staying grounded Why high-performance mindset applies far beyond the ring This episode is supported by Defense Unicorns Defense Unicorns builds platform technologies that help deliver mission-critical capabilities faster and more reliably. Their open architecture approach enables secure, scalable systems without vendor lock, creating flexibility across the software ecosystem. Backed by a team of engineers, innovators, and veterans, they bring deep experience across defense and federal tech. Get in touch at hello@defenseunicorns.com Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/
From Snapshots to Systems: Why 3D Earth Awareness Is Becoming Critical Infrastructure | The Pair Program Ep97
Jun 16, 20261h 12m
From Snapshots to Systems: Why 3D Earth Awareness Is Becoming Critical Infrastructure | The Pair Program Ep97 In this episode of The Pair Program, we’re joined by Andrew Peterson, Co-Founder and CEO of Array Labs, and David Gauthier, Chief Strategy Officer at GXO, for a conversation on the future of Earth observation and what happens when the world can be mapped in near real time. From distributed radar satellite networks to AI-powered geospatial intelligence, they explore how 3D awareness is changing the way governments, businesses, and operators understand the physical world. They also discuss the shift from legacy space systems to resilient satellite architectures and why persistent, high-resolution data could become critical infrastructure in the years ahead. Key topics include: Why 3D Earth observation is the next evolution of geospatial intelligence How satellite swarms can outperform traditional space systems The growing role of commercial space technology in national security What becomes possible when real-time physical world data is always available About Andrew Peterson: Andrew is the Co-founder and CEO of Array Labs, where he is building a new approach to satellite-based Earth observation using distributed radar systems. His background spans radio-frequency sensing, laser defense systems, and the Vera Rubin Astronomical Observatory. He is focused on applying information from large-scale sensing programs to help us better understand the planet. About David Gauthier: David is currently a consultant at GXO, Inc., integrating new commercial space capabilities with U.S. national security missions. He has nearly 30 years of experience leading operations and strategy across the Intelligence Community, including serving as Chief Strategy Officer and Director of Commercial Operations at NGA. He is also a Fellow at the National Security Institute and a Senior Associate at CSIS. This episode is supported by Defense Unicorns Defense Unicorns builds platform technologies that help deliver mission-critical capabilities faster and more reliably. Their open architecture approach enables secure, scalable systems without vendor lock, creating flexibility across the software ecosystem. Backed by a team of engineers, innovators, and veterans, they bring deep experience across defense and federal tech. Get in touch at hello@defenseunicorns.com Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/
From Sidewalks to Scale: What It Actually Takes to Build Real-World Robotics | The Pair Program Ep96
Jun 2, 20261h 5m
From Sidewalks to Scale: What It Actually Takes to Build Real-World Robotics | The Pair Program Ep96 What does it take to turn autonomous robotics from a demo into real-world infrastructure? In this episode of The Pair Program, Paige Craig, Managing Partner at Outlander VC, and Zach Rash, Co-founder & CEO at Coco, discuss scaling autonomous delivery, building operational moats through real-world data, navigating regulation and reliability, and what separates successful robotics companies from the rest. They also explore the future of physical AI and the founder traits behind category-defining businesses. What we cover in this episode: Why real-world deployment matters more than perfect demos Building operational moats in robotics and physical AI The economics and challenges of last-mile delivery How autonomous systems learn from real-world data Reliability as the key to scaling logistics networks The future impact of autonomy across industries Founder-market fit and what investors look for in exceptional founders About Paige Craig: Paige is the Managing Partner of Outlander VC, where he invests in founders building category-defining companies. A former Marine Corps officer and entrepreneur, he successfully scaled a national security company before transitioning into venture capital, backing companies such as Lyft, SpaceX, and AngelList early in their growth. About Zach Rash: Zach is the CEO and co-founder of Coco, an autonomous delivery company focused on transforming last-mile logistics. Since launching the company, he has helped expand autonomous delivery services across multiple cities while advancing sustainable, technology-driven solutions for urban transportation. This episode is supported by Defense Unicorns Defense Unicorns builds platform technologies that help deliver mission-critical capabilities faster and more reliably. Their open architecture approach enables secure, scalable systems without vendor lock, creating flexibility across the software ecosystem. Backed by a team of engineers, innovators, and veterans, they bring deep experience across defense and federal tech. Get in touch at hello@defenseunicorns.com Exploring your next tech role? Get insider job advice and the latest startup & govtech openings – delivered straight to your inbox. Subscribe here: https://www.myhatchpad.com/newsletter/
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