Episode #101
EP 101: Spiritual But Not Religious? Liz Bucar on Wellness Culture and the Theology Nobody Notices
Is wellness culture actually spiritual, or just another consumer trend? If you identify as spiritual but not religious, there is no shortage of wellness trends promising peace and health without the "baggage" of religion. But when you remove the religious meaning from practices like yoga, you are left with a pretty shallow spiritual practice. This week we sit down with scholar and author Liz Bucar to dig into her new book, Beyond Wellness. Liz's argument: wellness culture — Goop, energy healing, "manifesting your best life" — runs on Protestant theology with the "god" quietly removed. To go mainstream, every wellness practice had to be "Protestantized": individualized, interior, something you do alone. We go deep on: * The "Not God" problem — Liz's candid story about her father's alcoholism and Alcoholics Anonymous, and why the hardest and most theological step in recovery is simply admitting I am not the higher power. * Why individualism fails us — Liz's case that real community isn't just who shows up for you, it's who you show up for, and that comes with actual obligation Tech-bro eschatology — how a pessimistic belief that "AI is going to kill us all anyway" quietly gives billionaires permission to stop being ethical right now * Race, whiteness, and wellness culture — why Liz naming her own entitlement as a white scholar matters, and how that framing lands differently than when marginalized voices are forced to do it alone * Discomfort vs. danger — the distinction that growth requires sitting in discomfort, and that our instinct to avoid it is really a desire for control This conversation also continues a real dialogue between our two projects: our take on one of Liz's Substack essays shaped an earlier episode of ours on State Rep. James Talarico — and Liz wrote a follow-up essay directly responding to what we said. Read both: " What if Trevor Noah is right about.. ." and her response , " Your Eschatology Is Showing ." Chapters: 0:00 - Cold Open & The Hidden Religious Roots of Wellness Culture 5:18 - Meet Dr. Liz Bucar, author of Beyond Wellness 7:25 - Social Media & The Evolution of Theological Discourse 11:44 - Why We Need to Talk About Religious Appropriation 16:00 - How Do We Navigate Boundaries in Spiritual Spaces? 20:42 - Defining "Religion" in the Modern Era 33:12 - The Radical Act of Accepting That You Are Not God 56:34 - Detaching Shame from Our Relationship with Food 1:08:30 - Closing thoughts & Good News! ️ New episodes every Friday, on all platforms. Support the show! Your tax-deductible donation keeps this ministry going https://secure.myvanco.com/YGTN/campaign/C-168BG?access=tile_direct Watching on YouTube? Like and subscribe! Listening on Apple or Spotify? Rate, subscribe, and leave a comment — it genuinely helps the algorithm find more people like you. You can find the links and the links to the host's social media here: https://linktr.ee/theprogressivechristians Please subscribe to the Love Your Neighbor newsletter, an outgrowth of this podcast community. It will be a way for us to create new relationships and deepen existing ones with people of faith who want to learn how to practice their faith in ways that align with their values of love, justice, and compassion. We hope to see you on Substack! The Progressive Christians Podcast is a ministry of The Loft, a worship community of Westwood United Methodist Church. If you have an idea for the show or want to connect with us, please email us at progressivechristians@theloftla.org. Show notes: Liz Bucar can be found on Instagram and TikTok as @LizBucar, and you can subscribe to her Substack at https://lizbucar.substack.com/. You can find all of her books on her website at https://www.lizbucar.com/books. Brian Johnson's religious roots- https://religionunplugged.com/news/2025/2/4/bryan-johnson-says-he-wants-to-live-forever-what-does-he-really-want Crime Rates fall in New York City- https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/news/PR009/nypd-fewest-murders-shooting-incidents-shooting-victims-recorded-history-the NYC Affordable Housing- https://www.goodgoodgood.co/articles/mamdani-affordable-housing-lift-tracker
