The Rollup

Where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world.Website: https://therollup.co/

The Rollup is a technology podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 693 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

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  Underneath The Hood Of The Rapidly Growing Neobank Sector With Rain CTO Charles Yoo-Naut

  Aug 18, 202633 min

  Rain Co-Founder Charles Yoo-Naut joins us for a look underneath the exploding neobank sector, which has exploded from $5m/month to $250m+/month in crypto-card volume in less than a year. He breaks down how Rain went from a stablecoin-backed card issuer for crypto-native DAOs to a platform powering over 200 card programs, including a landmark partnership with Western Union and more. Charles Yoo-Naut is the Co-Founder and CTO of Rain, a stablecoin-backed card issuing platform that powers programs for Western Union and 200+ other partners. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:52 Stablecoins Spent Instantly On Visa 04:09 Built For Underbanked Digital Asset Teams 05:16 200 Programs Now Powered By Rain 09:44 Rain Powers Western Union Cards 12:27 How Rain Makes Money 15:00 Stablecoin Spend Data Revealed 18:00 Genius Act Impact On Rain 21:00 Compliance Licensing Takes Years 24:00 You Cannot Vibe Code Rain 28:23 Co-Founder Dynamic Explained 30:31 Building With AI From Day One Guest Socials: Charles Yoo-Naut X: https://x.com/cnaut Rain X: https://x.com/raincards Rain Website: https://www.rain.xyz/ Partners: If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you're out of range, you're rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua --- Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/ --- Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. Learn more here: https://www.spaceandtime.io/ --- Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge --- Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain. Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/ --- -, -, . : Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd... Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures . . . : , , . , , . , . . How this was made

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  Andy & Robbie: Do Token Buybacks Actually Work? (Full Data-Backed Breakdown)

  Aug 17, 202624 min

  Robbie and Andy debate Morpho founder Paul Frambot's controversial take that token buybacks are "shooting yourself in the foot" versus the market's clear reward for programmatic buybacks from Hyperliquid, Lighter, and Pump. They break down Luca Prosperi's corporate finance framework for when buybacks make sense based on market conditions and return on equity, and make the case that too many projects launched tokens before they had a business generating enough revenue to justify one. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 02:56 Only 5% Of Tokens Qualify 06:16 If You Need Growth, Skip The Token 08:40 Lighter, Hyperliquid, Pump Lead Performance 13:54 Programmable Vs Arbitrary Buybacks 19:23 Applying This To The Rollup Itself 22:45 Too Many Tokens Launched Too Early Partners: If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you're out of range, you're rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua --- Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/ --- Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. Learn more here: https://www.spaceandtime.io/ --- Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge --- Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain. Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/ --- -, -, . : Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd... Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures : , , . , , . , . .

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  SharpLink & Lido: Why $200M Just Went Into ETH Staking (Here's Why)

  Aug 16, 202635 min

  Joseph Chalom and Kean Gilbert break down why SharpLink staked $200 million in ETH through Lido, making the case that unlike Bitcoin, Ethereum is a natively productive asset that treasury companies have a duty to put to work. They unpack why a proposal to cut Ethereum's staking issuance would undermine the risk-free rate anchoring DeFi lending and push institutions toward competitors like Solana, and explain why native yield is becoming the standard institutional playbook for ETH exposure. Joseph Chalom is the CEO of SharpLink, one of the largest corporate treasury holders of Ethereum. Kean Gilbert is the Head of Institutional Relations at Lido, the largest liquid staking protocol on Ethereum. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 05:41 Making ETH Fully Productive 08:39 Ethereum's Issuance Reduction Proposal 11:00 Why A Third Of ETH Stays Onchain 14:01 Rise Of Institutional Staking Products 19:19 Revenue And Token Value 23:50 Fidelity Adds Ethereum Staking 28:41 Permanent Capital Beats Trumps All Guest Socials: Joseph Chalom X: https://x.com/joechalom Sharplink X: https://x.com/Sharplink Sharplink Website: https://www.sharplink.com/ Kean Gilbert X: https://x.com/Kean_Gilbert Lido X: https://x.com/LidoFinance Lido Website: https://lido.fi/ Partners: If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you're out of range, you're rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua --- Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/ --- Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. More here: https://www.spaceandtime.io/ --- Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. More here: https://relay.link/bridge --- Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain. More here: https://www.zama.org/ --- -, -, . : Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd... Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures : , , . , , . , . .

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  NPC Labs CEO: The Biggest Shift In AI Is Happening In Front Of Your Eyes (Everything You Need To Know)

  Aug 14, 202642 min

  Daryl Xu joins us to explain the biggest shift happening in AI. He introduces B3 IQ, a platform that lets anyone rent-to-own AI compute instead of relying on centralized API providers, and makes the case that using decentralized inference has a hidden cost most people overlook: your proprietary data. He also explains why inference demand keeps climbing even as GPU prices depreciate slower than expected. Daryl Xu is the Co-Founder and CEO of NPC Labs, a core contributor to the B3 ecosystem and creator of B3 IQ, an AI compute ownership platform. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 04:28 The Compute Ownership Thesis 09:53 B3's Evolution Into AI 13:34 Own Your GPU, Own Your Data 18:40 How GPU Owners Earn From AI 22:34 Live Demo Of The Platform 27:48 Who Are The Compute Customers? 32:05 Why Inference Demand Keeps Growing Guest Socials: Daryl Xu X: https://x.com/darylX24 B3 Labs X: https://x.com/b3labs B3 Labs Website: https://b3labs.org/ Partners: If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you're out of range, you're rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua --- Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/ --- Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. Learn more here: https://www.spaceandtime.io/ --- Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge --- Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain. Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/ --- -, -, . : Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd... Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures : , , . , , . , . .

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  Bitwise: Why Institutions Are Buying Ethereum For The Long Haul (Majors vs. Apps)

  Aug 12, 202645 min

  Bitwise's CIO Matt Hougan and Head of Research Ryan Rasmussen break down why institutional ETF investors kept buying through the summer's 50% drawdowns and explain why they expect the next bull market to look a lot different than previous ones. They also make the case that ETF flows are expanding, what institutional allocators really want to buy, and the long-term forecasts for top digital assets. Matt Hougan is the Chief Investment Officer at Bitwise, and Ryan Rasmussen is the Head of Research at Bitwise, one of the largest digital assets asset managers with a suite of digital asset ETFs spanning Bitcoin, Ethereum, Solana, and beyond. The Rollup is where the leaders of digital assets and finance converge. Live from the financial capital of the world. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:00 Market Structure Shifting 03:01 Is The Four Year Cycle Compressing? 08:07 Positive ETF Flows Since July 1st 13:55 Why Institutions Buy Majors, Not Apps (Yet) 15:21 Digital Asset Natives See A Different Opportunity 18:05 Bitcoin Starting To Trade Like Gold 20:42 Institutions Are Getting Sophisticated Now 30:59 Hyperliquid & Zcash Bull Thesis 37:04 Memes Aren't Sustainable Guest Socials: Matt Hougan X: https://x.com/Matt_Hougan Ryan Rasmussen: https://x.com/RasterlyRock Bitwise X: https://x.com/Bitwise Bitwise Website: https://bitwiseinvestments.com/ Partners: If you run concentrated liquidity positions you know the grind. Price moves, you're out of range, you're rebalancing at, like, 3am. 1inch Aqua lets you take a different approach. You can stack multiple positions on the same token balance instead of babysitting a dozen pools, and your tokens never leave your wallet. Your liquidity stays awake, so you can catch up on your sleep. Check it out at https://1inch.com/aqua --- Dinari - Over 230 1:1 backed tokenized stocks, ETFs & more with dividends. US-based SEC transfer agent. Available on 5+ chains & via API. https://dinari.com/ --- Space and Time is providing verifiable data infrastructure for onchain finance. A decentralized database, blockchain indexer, and ZK coprocessor in one, giving DeFi protocols,stablecoins, and tokenized assets accurate, provable data. --- Relay is the fastest and most reliable way to swap any token on any chain. Learn more here: https://relay.link/bridge --- Zama is an open source cryptography company that builds state-of-the-art Fully Homomorphic Encryption (FHE) solutions for blockchain. Learn more here: https://www.zama.org/ --- -, -, . : Website: https://therollup.co/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/1P6ZeYd... Podcast: https://therollup.co/category/podcast Follow us on X: https://www.x.com/therollupco Follow Rob on X: https://x.com/robbieklages Follow Andy on X: https://x.com/andyyy Join our TG group: https://t.me/+TsM1CRpWFgk1NGZh The Rollup Disclosures: https://goodidea.ventures . . . : , , . , , . , . .

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