Episode #33
033 ~ Sébastien Fouillard ~ "I Left My Body in a Yoga Class": What a Big Tech AI Designer Learned in the Unknown
What happens when an engineering mindset collides with an intense out-of-body spiritual experience? Human experience designer and conversational AI specialist Sébastien Fouillard joins me today to recount his radical "Matrix breakout" moment during a Kriya yoga session. We explore the delicate balance between high-tech innovation and soul-led living, the ethics of engineering human-like AI agents, and how deprogramming corporate conditioning allows us to reclaim our sacred inner space. — ☀️ Join The WakeUp Protocol Newsletter This is where the podcast turns into practice. Every week, I share the specific tools, rituals, and inquiries mentioned in my episodes to help you stay sovereign and heart-led. Sign up here: www.thewakeupprotocol.com — About Our Guest: Sébastien Fouillard Sébastien Fouillard is a human experience designer, the host of the Leadershipedelics Podcast, and a facilitator of Sacred Creativity Retreats in Peru. With nearly 30 years of experience crafting user experiences, he currently works on the cutting edge of conversational AI at Microsoft, exploring the complex social relationships forming between humans and technology. Sébastien’s own awakening journey began with an intense out-of-body breathwork experience that shattered his rigid engineering mindset. He has since dedicated his life to bridging the corporate world with spiritual integration, showing up as a father, husband, and guide who treats life itself as an unfolding, creative dance. — In This Episode, We Explore "I Left My Body in a Yoga Class": A detailed look at the Kriya yoga and breathwork experience that shattered his Cartesian worldview and reordered his reality. The AI Mirror: What an insider designing conversational AI at Microsoft believes about ethics, human dependency, and keeping AI strictly as a tool. Breaking Out of the Matrix: Overcoming the severe corporate cognitive dissonance and depression after experiencing higher states of consciousness. Weaponized Narratives & Identity: How to retain your personal agency when corporate structures and societal pressures try to trap you into being just a consumer. The Goofy Dance: Dismantling harsh self-judgment by practicing raw, playful movement—and the morning kitchen rituals that ground his family. The Ageless Teacher: Reconceptualizing our relationships with our children and learning to listen to the universal, timeless being behind their eyes. — Connect with Sébastien Website: fooyad.com Retreats: Learn about his custom, boutique Sacred Creativity retreats held in the beautiful Sacred Valley of Peru. Instagram: @SacredCreativityRetreats Podcast: Leadershipedelics — Support The WakeUp Protocol Share: Send this to someone who is currently balancing a corporate career while trying to protect their sacred inner space. Follow & Review: Help us elevate more human stories by following and leaving a heartfelt 5-star review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or YouTube. Newsletter: www.thewakeupprotocol.com Thank you for listening!
