Two Ordinary Cops

The two ordinary cops are former Northern Territory Police Officers Remote Sergeant Ben Schultz and Detective Sergeant Damien Barbe. With over 25 years experience Ben and Damo share stories from their time in the job. Follow along through the laughter, anger and tears that come with the rigours of Policing Australia’s last frontier.

Two Ordinary Cops is a true crime podcast hosted by benschultz, with 143 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

benschultz hosts Two Ordinary Cops, a true crime show with 143 episodes published.

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  Episode #144

  Episode 138 - Part 1 - Interview with Roger Mayor - Foundation, Training and Introduction into Policing

  Aug 28, 20261h 5m

  This episode is an absolute blast. Roger Mayor not only tells you of his upbringing and how it turned him into the police officer and man he became. But it explains dedication and driving you to exceed expectations of what of what former experts thought you would reach. This is coming from a man who was not the best at school but showed his abilities in policing and how you are the person that defines you, not what people think. During this episode you will see the camaraderie between Roger, Damo and Schultzy having lived similar experiences between them and this being the first time the Two Ordinary Cops have spoken with him. It shows policing is not just a job, it is a lifestyle. We all hope you enjoy it as much as the speakers did. Let us know your thoughts.

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  Episode #143

  Episode 137 - The Man Who Wasn't There.

  Aug 21, 20261 hour

  What does a major murder investigation really look like from the inside? This week, Damo takes us back to Operation Nina, the investigation into the 2011 murder of Ray Niceforo in Katherine — the Northern Territory’s first known contract killing. Damo was one of the investigators at the front end of the case and personally arrested Zach Greve, one of three young men initially convicted of the murder. Greve would later be released after the court found there was no evidence establishing that he was present at the scene — ultimately becoming the subject of Dan Box’s book, The Man Who Wasn’t There. But Damo was there. He takes us behind the headlines and into the investigation as it unfolded: the discovery of the body, the first crime scene, the breakthrough admission that suddenly changed everything, simultaneous arrests and the enormous investigative effort that followed. We also break down what television rarely shows — 12 to 18-hour days, search warrants, endless CCTV, exhibits, running sheets, intelligence coming in from dozens of directions, daily briefings and investigators following separate lines of inquiry before bringing everything back together. And Damo gives his own perspective on Greve and the investigation, while making clear where his personal opinion differs from the findings ultimately made by the court. It's an inside look at major crime from two former cops who have actually worked these investigations — where the breakthrough might happen in seconds, but getting there can take thousands of hours.

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  Episode #142

  Episode 136 – Behind the Cordon/ When Police Face the Unthinkable.

  Aug 14, 202641 min

  This week on Two Ordinary Cops, Schultzy and Damo take listeners behind the police cordon following the recent tragic murder-suicide in Charleville. We break down what actually happens during a major critical incident — from inner and outer cordons and specialist police to negotiation and the difficult decisions being made behind the scenes. Schultzy also reflects on attending a murder-suicide as a young probationary constable in Katherine and the confronting jobs police carry with them long after the shift ends. We recognise the Charleville constable who ran towards danger to rescue an 18-month-old child, awarding them our Big Camo Sauce – Extra Sauce on the Burger for going above and beyond. Then, because policing isn't always doom and gloom, we finish with a Carton of the Week involving NSW Police, a suspected body in a suitcase… and a very unexpected sex doll. Schultzy also gives a strong recommendation for David Raymond’s Vader: A Police Dog Story — the true story of Sergeant Raymond and Police Dog Vader, who spent five years tracking offenders, finding missing people and saving lives across North Queensland. An outstanding insight into what police dogs and their handlers do on the frontline. Get Vader: A Police Dog Story Available in paperback and eBook from Big Sky Publishing and through major Australian booksellers. Vader – Big Sky Publishing

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  Episode #141

  Episode 135 – Undercover, Unbroken: Todd Maguire

  Aug 7, 20261h 36m

  Former Queensland Police detective and undercover operative Todd Maguire shares the story behind the badge. What starts as a conversation about policing quickly becomes something much more powerful. Todd opens up about personal tragedy, PTSD, grief, healing and finding purpose again after life changed forever. For us, this episode felt like the best kind of police debrief. You start by talking through the toughest moments, but somehow finish with laughter, hope and a lighter load than when you arrived. That's something first responders have always understood—real conversations don't leave you feeling worse, they remind you that you're never carrying it alone. If this episode encourages just one first responder to start a conversation, or reminds one person they're not alone, then it's been worth having.

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  Episode #140

  Episode 134 – Courage Under Fire: When a Routine Call Turns Critical

  Jul 31, 202619 min

  A routine welfare check can become a life-or-death situation in an instant—and this week we discuss the tragic shooting of Queensland Police Constable Jordan May and the extraordinary courage shown by Senior Constable Ash Drummond in bringing his injured colleague to safety. Drawing on our own frontline policing experience, we explore why no police job is ever truly "routine", the importance of realistic firearms training, and the split-second decisions officers are forced to make under extreme pressure. We also discuss why the public should always follow police directions during critical incidents, and how limited information can quickly turn an ordinary call into a fight for survival. As always, we recognise those who go above and beyond, with our Sauce of the Week awarded to two officers who demonstrated exceptional courage and commitment in the face of danger. This episode is a tribute to the bravery of our frontline police and a reminder that behind every emergency call is an unpredictable reality few people ever see.

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