Two Sides of the Table

A podcast designed for MSPs and IT business owners looking to scale, solve challenges, and stay ahead.

Two Sides of the Table is a business podcast hosted by Unknown Host, with 30 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Unknown Host hosts Two Sides of the Table, a business show with 30 episodes published.

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  Episode #30

  Season 3 Episode 9 – The MSP Billing Process and the Cost of Getting It Wrong with Cameron McFie

  Jul 27, 202641 min

  Cameron McFie, founder of Xeneth, joins Kayla and Pete to unpack why so many MSPs are unknowingly leaving revenue on the table through inaccurate Microsoft billing and licensing. From CSP complexity to reconciliation and pricing accuracy, this episode breaks down exactly where the money goes missing and how to build a billing process that protects your margin as you scale.

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  Episode #29

  Season 3 Episode 8 – Navigating the Challenges of Business Owner Home Loans with Derik Karamian

  Jul 13, 202648 min

  Derik Karamian, founder of Australian Loan House, joins Kayla and Pete to explain why business owners often face a tougher path to loan approval. This episode covers what banks actually look for and how to get your finances in order for a smoother approval.

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  Episode #28

  Season 3 Episode 7 – How to Stop Working in Your Business and Start Working on It with Mirko Perkovic

  Jun 29, 202638 min

  Mirko Perkovic, professional EOS implementer at EOS Worldwide, joins Kayla and Pete to break down how the Entrepreneurial Operating System helps MSP owners build structure, accountability and traction into their business. From vision building to breaking through the ceiling, this episode is packed with practical insights for any MSP owner ready to take back control and grow with confidence.

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  Episode #27

  Season 3 Episode 6 - Smarter Marketing for MSPs with Nicolette Baker

  Jun 15, 202643 min

  Nicolette Baker, CMO at Inception Marketing, joins Kayla and Pete to share what separates MSPs that grow through marketing from those that don't. From understanding your ideal customer to knowing where to spend your budget, this episode covers the foundations every MSP needs to get right.

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  Episode #26

  Season 3 Episode 5 – The Expert Season Halfway Recap with Kayla and Pete

  Jun 1, 202621 minS0

  Kayla and Pete pause halfway through Season 3 to reflect on everything covered so far in the Expert Series.   From navigating insolvency and restructuring with Bryn Hardwood, to ISO certifications and AI governance with Jason Maricchiolo, cyber insurance with Tim Stephenson from SherpaTech, and the people and culture conversation with Carla Canning, this episode brings it all together.   They share the key takeaways from each guest, what surprised them, and what they are personally applying to their own businesses, before providing a preview of the four expert guests still to come in the back half of the season.

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