
Episode #18
Where the Rubber Meets the Road (featuring Kelly Schupp)
We're back with Kelly Schupp, ASME PCC Standards Chair and Consulting Engineer at Equity, for part 2 of our conversation! This episode picks up with Kelly’s transition from design engineering to refinery and chemical plant fixed equipment, including how an all-day interview at Valero changed her career direction, a “sink or swim” introduction to post-construction, and lessons in writing technical requirements that work across sites of vastly different sizes. Kelly shares stories spanning 1930s German reactors, the Haber-Bosch process, glass process columns, and the potential pitfalls of spark testing. The conversation then turns to codes and standards, including capturing tribal knowledge, should versus shall, the value of peer networks, and ASME PTB-2 as a life cycle roadmap for younger engineers. Kelly also discusses her plans for sustainability as PCC Chair and the responsibility of experienced engineers to share hard-earned knowledge with the next generation. If you enjoyed this discussion, subscribe to Upon Further Inspection so you don't miss the next episode. 00:45 Team Captain vs. Coach Leadership 01:19 Why Kelly Skipped Management 03:26 Concerns Over the PE Stamp 04:38 Choosing Valero St. Charles 06:09 Sink or Swim in Post-Construction 08:19 Cat Cracker Replacement 09:33 Influence Without Authority 11:27 Fixed Equipment Role at BASF 14:19 Writing Standards Across Sites 15:41 Methanex and Returning to Consulting 17:25 PVP 2018 and a Trip to Germany 21:14 Six-Pack Reactors and German Foresight 24:09 Lost Records and Vessel History 29:07 Shrink-Fit Coil-Wound Vessel 30:31 Haber-Bosch and the BASF Legacy 37:41 Borosilicate Glass Columns 42:20 Dietrich and Glass-Lined Equipment 44:06 Spark Testing Pitfalls 46:32 Capturing Tribal Knowledge 47:43 Should vs. Shall Debates 50:16 Why Peer Networks Matter 51:38 PTB-2 Life Cycle Roadmap 54:13 PCC Sustainability and Knowledge Transfer 57:39 ASME Boiler Code Week Episode Acronyms & Abbreviations API – American Petroleum Institute ASME – American Society of Mechanical Engineers BASF – Badische Anilin- & Soda-Fabrik EPC – Engineering, Procurement & Construction FCCU – Fluid Catalytic Cracking Unit FEED – Front-End Engineering Design FFS – Fitness-for-Service LDPE – Low-Density Polyethylene NBIC – National Board Inspection Code NDE – Nondestructive Examination PCC – ASME Post Construction Committee PCC-1 – ASME Pressure Boundary Bolted Flange Joint Assembly PCC-2 – ASME Repair of Pressure Equipment & Piping PCC-3 – ASME Inspection Planning Using Risk-Based Methods PE – Professional Engineer PTB-2 – ASME Guide to Life Cycle Management of Pressure Equipment Integrity PTFE – Polytetrafluoroethylene PVP – ASME Pressure Vessels & Piping Conference RBI – Risk-Based Inspection RP – Recommended Practice RT – Radiographic Testing SME – Subject Matter Expert TOFD – Time-of-Flight Diffraction UT – Ultrasonic Testing WRC – Welding Research Council Send a text & tell us what you think! Thank you for listening to Upon Further Inspection ! If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to follow or subscribe so you don’t miss the next one. We’d love to hear from you—connect with us on LinkedIn and share your thoughts on the episode. Have ideas for future topics or guests? Email us at inspectionpodcast@gmail.com . Join us next time, wherever you get your podcasts. Until then, stay safe and stay informed. Note: The views and opinions expressed by the guest are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the hosts or the Upon Further Inspection podcast. This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not constitute legal or professional advice. Listeners should seek their own qualified advisors for guidance.






