
Episode #5
”What can VMF do for America?” - The 2025 VCHI and Corporate ERGs
What does it take for veterans and military families to keep serving after leaving the uniform? Guy Kiyokawa, VP at Leidos and former Assistant Secretary of Veterans Affairs, and Leo Marin, co-founder of Beneath the Service, join us to break down what corporate America, nonprofits, and government are actually doing—and what they're getting wrong—to unlock veteran talent and civic leadership. Guy shares why purpose and belonging matter more than a paycheck, and Leo doesn't hold back on outdated hiring practices, rigid organizational structures, and the billion-dollar opportunity companies are sitting on. Together, they challenge the systems that hold veterans back and offer a direct call to action: change your structures or get left behind. Whether you're a veteran looking to transition, a spouse navigating the civilian workforce, or a leader asking what real veteran engagement looks like—this is the conversation that cuts through the talk and gets to what actually works. #vettedconversations #guykiyokawa #leidos #leomarin #beneaththeservice #military #veterans #militaryspouses Support the show For more, check us out at www.wetheveterans.us and at https://linktr.ee/vettedconversations






