Work Is Third

Work Is Third is a podcast for people who are ready to rethink how we work, lead, and live.Hosted by Dawn Hunter, JD, MPH, CWP — Workplace Culture Strategist and leadership speaker — this show explores burnout prevention, boundaries, organizational wellbeing, and sustainable ways of working through honest conversations, research-informed insights, and real-world leadership stories.Each episode offers practical tools, reflective moments, and culture-shifting ideas to help individuals and organizations build healthier, more human ways of working — without losing what matters most.

Work Is Third is a education podcast hosted by Dawn Hunter, with 73 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Dawn Hunter hosts Work Is Third, a education show with 73 episodes published.

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  Episode #73

  Identity Shifts Are Not for the Weak | Reinvention With Emily Adams

  Aug 17, 202644 minS1

  What if the version of you that got you here isn't the version you need for what's next? Emily Adams left the Amish community at 17 with no roadmap—jumping out of a two-story window in the middle of the night with no plan. She went on to manage production lines for Ford, GM, and BMW, save millions in operational gaps inside a global tech company, bootstrap a tech platform from scratch, and help lead Tampa Bay Tech Week to a profitable 40-event week as COO. Today she's Managing Partner at Gulf Works Lab, a Fractional COO, and one of the clearest voices on why AI implementation fails. In this episode, Dawn Hunter talks with Emily about human design, self-awareness, building community instead of competing in silos, and why every identity shift — no matter how big or small — takes real courage. A conversation about reinvention, boundaries, and giving yourself permission to become someone new. Guest Info Website: https://gulfworkslab.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyadams8/ Threads: https://www.threads.com/@emilyadams_ RESOURCES MENTIONED Tampa Bay Tech Week, https://www.tampabaytechweek.com/ Amplify Women Tampa Bay, https://amplifywomentampabay.com/ Human Design DISC assessment Myers-Briggs Predictive Index EMDR therapy Somatic exercises with Liz Tenuto, ⁠https://www.instagram.com/theworkoutwitch_/ Let’s Stay Connected! Subscribe to the show! Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ ⏰ TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Work Is Third

  Stop Roleplaying In Your Own Life | Dare To Become With Jonathan Cave

  Aug 3, 202650 min

  What happens when the role you're playing on the outside stops matching who you actually are underneath it? On this episode of Work Is Third, Dawn Hunter talks with Jonathan Cave about daring to become that person instead. Jonathan is the author of The Tree and the Mountain – Dare to Become where he shares his journey to redefine himself. Jonathan was a partner in a prestigious Geneva law firm, outwardly successful yet inwardly drained, restless and unable to enjoy the life he had worked so hard to create. Determined to bridge that gap, Jonathan turned inward, asking himself who he truly was, what mattered most and why he was chasing so hard. They also unpack why "work-life balance" may be the wrong goal entirely, and the simple daily practices that can help you overcome imposter syndrome. Guest Info Website: https://www.jonathancave.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-cave/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@myphy7460 RESOURCES MENTIONED The Tree and the Mountain – Dare to Become byJonathan Cave — jonathancave.com/book Let’s Stay Connected! · Subscribe to the show! · Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ · Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ · ⏰ TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter · Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Episode #71

  The Bottleneck Is You | Learning From Human Design With Brooke Dukes

  Jul 20, 202649 minS1

  What has to happen in your life for you to realize that you need a break – and to take it? Brooke Dukes has built four companies in 24 years, and she's found the same problem inside every one of them: the founder becomes the bottleneck. Brooke Dukes is the founder of Success by Design, a leadership operating system for founders and CEOs of small and mid-sized businesses and the author of Burn On, Not Out . In this episode, Brooke and Dawn get into what that bottleneck really is: control and fear, dressed up as "just being hands-on," and why it's often the same pattern showing up at home and at work. Brooke shares the story behind her book Burn On, Not Out , including going into preterm labor on a corporate jet at 34 and later giving herself shingles and COVID at the same time. Dawn and Brooke also dig into human design — type, strategy, and authority — as a practical tool for decision-making, boundary-setting, and finally trusting yourself again. Guest Info · Website: https://www.brookemdukes.com/ · All Socials: @brookedukes RESOURCES MENTIONED · Brooke’s book: Burn On, Not Out: Finding Fulfillment Beyond Success Let’s Stay Connected! · Subscribe to the show! · Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ · Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ · ⏰ TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter · Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Episode #70

  Friends, Mentors, and Friendtors | Investing in Yourself With Urmi Hossain

  Jul 6, 202646 minS1

  What if the people around you are one of the best ways to invest in yourself? Self-Published Author, Speaker, Female Mentor and Women's Advocate, and corporate finance professional, Urmi Hossain joins Dawn to talk about "friendtors," speed mentoring, and the boundaries that let her invest in herself so she can invest in everyone else. She shares tips on managing time so that she can do all the things that fill her up. Together, Dawn and Urmi dig into identity, non-negotiable sleep, and why progress beats perfection every time. 🎶 Urmi's contribution to Work is Third: The Soundtrack - Unstoppable by Sia 📚 Guest Info LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/urmihossain/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@urmihossain Instagram (personal): https://www.instagram.com/urmamio/ Instagram (podcast): https://www.instagram.com/storiesbeyondborderspodcast/ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/urmihossain 📚 Resources Mentioned Urmi's podcast, Stories Beyond Borders : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/stories-beyond-borders/id1831413373 Women in Leadership — Montreal chapter: https://www.womeninleadership.ca/montreal Urmi's book: Discovering Your Identity: A Rebirth From Interracial Struggle – Available on Amazon 🔗 Let’s Stay Connected! 🎧 Subscribe to the show! 📬 Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ 📸 Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ ⏰ TikTok: @the_dawn_hunter 🌐 Website: http://workisthird.com/

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  Episode #69

  Your Body Knows You Don't Belong | The Science of Belonging with Andrea D. Carter

  Jun 22, 202651 minS1

  Have you ever felt like you didn't belong somewhere but couldn't explain why? Organizational scientist, adjunct professor, and keynote speaker Andrea D. Carter has spent years studying exactly that feeling — and she has the data to prove it's not in your head. It's in your nervous system. Her belonging research, validated across 8 industries and over 150,000 people, makes one thing undeniable: belonging isn't soft. It's science. It's infrastructure. It's how people perform. In this episode, Dawn and Andrea explore why the human nervous system is constantly scanning for safety or threat, what psychological safety actually protects (hint: it's not comfort), why resilience is not a solo sport, and the difference between fitting in and truly belonging. This is the conversation workplaces aren't having but desperately need. 📚 Guest Info Website: https://andreacarterconsulting.com | https://belongingfirst.com LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreadcarter/ Substack: https://andreadcarter.substack.com/ Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/belongingfirst/ Adler:https://www.adler.edu/faculty-engagement/faculty-directory/carter-andrea-d/ 📚 RESOURCES MENTIONED Canada's Largest Belonging in the Workplace Study — conducted in the mining industry, 2021–2022, 3,508 participants "The Body Keeps the Score" — referenced in conversation (book by Bessel van der Kolk) Neuroception — concept by Dr. Stephen Porges; the nervous system's unconscious scanning for safety or threat Amy C. Edmondson — pioneer in Psychological Safety 🔗 Let’s Stay Connected · 🎧Subscribe to the show! · 📬Subscribe to ⁠The Joyful Rebellion Newsletter⁠ · 📸 Instagram: ⁠@the_dawn_hunter⁠ · 🌐 Website: http://workisthird.com/

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