
Episode #173
Policy Leaders at OpenAI and Anthropic on AI in National Security
Sasha Baker is the head of national security policy at OpenAI. Prior to that, she served as the acting under-secretary for policy and the deputy under-secretary of defense for policy at the Pentagon, and as the senior director for strategic planning on President Biden's National Security Council staff. Tarun Chhabra is the head of national security policy at Anthropic. He previously served as deputy assistant to the president and coordinator for technology and national security on the National Security Council staff, where he coordinated the Biden administration's strategies for technology competition with China and technology partnerships with U.S. allies and partners. This weeks reading/watching recommendations are AI 2027 , a project by Daniel Kokotajlo; AlphaGo , a documentary by director Greg Kohs; and " Nineteenth-Century Horse Sense " by Francis Thompson. If you like what you hear, you can get additional content from scholars at the Freeman Spogli Institute for International Studies by following us on X , Facebook , LinkedIn , Instagram , and YouTube , and by subscribing to our newsletters and updates .






