Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing

What if you could learn from experienced real estate investors, find out what got them to where they are now, get insight into their daily habits, and take these insights to inspire your own growth? That's what each episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing brings. Hosted by Jonathan Greene, a real estate investor for more than 30 years, as well as advisor and coach, the founder of Streamlined Properties and the Team Leader of Streamlined Properties, brokered by Real, every episode is an in-depth look at the mindful approach to real estate investing. If you are looking to start from scratch, get to the next level, or just for a straightforward and honest approach to real estate investing, Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing is the free mentorship program you can take with you anywhere.

Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing is a business podcast hosted by Jonathan Greene, with 369 episodes on record and a Required Pod Score of 80. PitchCentric scores this show on Booking Probability, Listen Score, and live audience signals refreshed every 24 hours.

Jonathan Greene hosts Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, a business show with 369 episodes published.

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  Episode #368

  368: Why Owning a Franchise Is the Other Path to Financial Freedom with Cliff Nonnenmacher

  Aug 19, 202655 min

  On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene sits down with Cliff Nonnenmacher, CEO and founder of Franocity, author, and franchise consultant, to explore franchising, entrepreneurship, and building businesses that can create lasting wealth. Cliff shares his unconventional path from collecting golf balls as a kid to investment banking, trading, owning multiple businesses, and eventually becoming deeply involved in franchising. Jonathan and Cliff dive into what makes a franchise a strong investment, why following a proven playbook can be more valuable than trying to reinvent the wheel, and how prospective franchise owners should evaluate their own skills, goals, risk tolerance, and willingness to execute. They also discuss why time freedom is often a bigger motivator than money and how entrepreneurs can build businesses with generational wealth and legacy in mind. The conversation also looks at the impact of AI and automation on the future of business. Cliff explains why entrepreneurs should focus on industries that are further from technological disruption, including businesses requiring hand dexterity, services for an aging population, youth enrichment, the humanization of pets, and the pursuit of health and longevity. Jonathan and Cliff also explore the challenges of generational succession and why so many business owners discover too late that their children have no interest in taking over the family business. They discuss the importance of exit planning, how franchise owners can grow through acquisitions, and why aging mom and pop businesses may represent significant opportunities for entrepreneurs who already have a proven system in place. Ultimately, this episode is about building something that gives you more than an income. Jonathan and Cliff discuss creating time freedom, following proven systems, adapting to disruption, planning for succession, and making sure the life's work you build can actually become an asset that someone else wants to buy. In this episode, you will hear: How Cliff went from childhood entrepreneurship to franchising Why time freedom is often more important than financial freedom What makes someone a strong candidate for franchise ownership How AI and automation could reshape traditional businesses Why business owners need to plan their exit before they are ready to leave Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover the show and supports its continued growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Cliff: Website - https://franocity.com YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@Franocity Facebook - http://www.facebook.com/franocity LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/cliffnonnenmacher X - http://x.com/franocity Connect with Jonathan: Podcast - www.zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com YouTube - www.youtube.com/JonathanGreenere Instagram - www.instagram.com/zenrealestateinvesting Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting Jonathan's Hub Site - www.trustgreene.com Brokerage - https://www.streamlined.properties This episode was produced by Outlier Audio .

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  Episode #367

  367: Why Reverse Mortgages Are the Best Kept Secret in Retirement Planning with Cheryl Scheidell

  Aug 12, 202650 min

  On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene sits down with Cheryl Scheidell, a reverse mortgage specialist with Barrett Financial Group, for an in-depth conversation about one of the most misunderstood financial tools available to homeowners. Cheryl explains how reverse mortgages have evolved over the years, who they are designed to help, and why they can play an important role in retirement planning, wealth preservation, and helping seniors age in place with greater financial security. Jonathan and Cheryl break down exactly how reverse mortgages work, separating common misconceptions from reality. Cheryl explains why borrowers are no longer required to make monthly mortgage payments, how equity is accessed responsibly, and why modern safeguards, including HUD counseling, have made today's Home Equity Conversion Mortgage (HECM) program much different from the products that earned a negative reputation years ago. They also discuss how reverse mortgages can be used to purchase homes, refinance existing loans, or even preserve low-interest first mortgages through second-position products. The conversation also explores the importance of family communication around financial planning. Jonathan and Cheryl discuss why adult children should be included in these conversations, how reverse mortgages can reduce the financial burden on families caring for aging parents, and why proactive estate planning often prevents unnecessary conflict later. They also explain how reverse mortgages can help pay for home modifications, in-home care, assisted living expenses, or simply allow retirees to enjoy the wealth they have spent decades building. Ultimately, this episode highlights the value of education over assumptions. Rather than viewing reverse mortgages as a last resort, Jonathan and Cheryl encourage listeners to understand them as one potential financial planning tool that, when used appropriately, can improve cash flow, preserve retirement assets, and create greater peace of mind for both homeowners and their families. In this episode, you will hear: How reverse mortgages work and why today's programs differ from outdated perceptions Why reverse mortgages can improve cash flow while allowing seniors to remain in their homes How reverse mortgages can help fund home modifications, healthcare, and retirement expenses Why involving adult children in financial planning conversations benefits the entire family How Home Equity Conversion Mortgages (HECMs) include consumer protections and required counseling Why reverse mortgages can serve as a valuable wealth preservation and retirement planning tool when used appropriately Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover the show and supports its continued growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Cheryl: Website - reversemortgageandbeyond.com YouTube - @reversemortgageandbeyond Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/ReverseMortgageLoanOfficer/ Instagram - reversemortgageandbeyond LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/cherylscheidell Email - cheryls@barrettfinancial.com Cell - (480) 817-4324 Connect with Jonathan: Podcast - www.zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com YouTube - www.youtube.com/JonathanGreenere Instagram - www.instagram.com/zenrealestateinvesting Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting Jonathan's Hub Site - www.trustgreene.com Brokerage - https://www.streamlined.properties This episode was produced by Outlier Audio .

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  Episode #366

  366: What 45 Years in Manufactured Housing Teaches You About Building Real Wealth with Nasir Ali

  Aug 5, 202655 min

  On this episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene sits down with "Ali" Nasir Ali, founder of Rise360 Ventures and a second-generation manufactured housing community specialist. Having grown up in his family's business, Ali began collecting rent, leasing homes, and learning the industry as a teenager. Together, Jonathan and Ali discuss how entrepreneurial values, generational knowledge, and long-term thinking shaped Ali's approach to investing and why manufactured housing communities have become one of the most compelling asset classes in real estate today. Ali explains how manufactured housing has evolved from an often misunderstood niche into an increasingly attractive investment opportunity. He shares why today's manufactured homes are dramatically different from outdated perceptions, how communities have become a key selling point, and why affordable housing demand continues to drive long-term growth. Jonathan and Ali also discuss why renting land instead of maintaining homes creates a unique business model with fewer operational headaches than many traditional real estate investments. The conversation also explores creative financing, value-add investing, and the importance of solving problems rather than simply buying properties. Ali shares stories from his family's eight generations in commercial real estate, illustrating how creativity, patience, and understanding a seller's true motivations can unlock opportunities that many investors overlook. Jonathan and Ali also reflect on how growing up around entrepreneurial parents gave them an entirely different perspective on wealth, risk, and building businesses. Ultimately, this episode highlights why successful investors focus on fundamentals instead of trends. Whether discussing manufactured housing communities, distressed businesses, or creative deal structures, Jonathan and Ali demonstrate that long-term wealth is built through patience, relationships, and consistently finding ways to create value rather than chasing the next opportunity. In this episode, you will hear: Why Ali believes knowledge, resilience, and family values are more valuable than inherited wealth How manufactured housing communities have evolved into one of real estate's most attractive asset classes Why renting land instead of maintaining homes creates a unique investment model How creative financing and understanding seller motivations can unlock exceptional real estate opportunities Why affordable housing continues to provide strong long-term investment potential How patience, operational improvements, and problem-solving create lasting wealth in real estate investing Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover the show and supports its continued growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Ali: Website - https://rise360ventures.com/ YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@RISE360Ventures Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/Rise360Ventures Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/rise360ventures/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/company/rise360ventures/ Connect with Jonathan: Podcast - www.zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com YouTube - www.youtube.com/JonathanGreenere Instagram - www.instagram.com/zenrealestateinvesting Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting Jonathan's Hub Site - www.trustgreene.com Brokerage - https://www.streamlined.properties This episode was produced by Outlier Audio .

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  Episode #365

  365: How to Think Like a Long-Term Investor When Everything Around You Is Noise

  Jul 29, 202639 min

  On this solo episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene explores what it truly means to think like a long-term investor in a world dominated by constant headlines, social media, and financial noise. As the podcast continues its evolution toward financial mindfulness, Jonathan explains why successful wealth building depends less on reacting to the latest trends and more on developing the patience, discipline, and confidence to stay focused on your own long-term goals. While real estate remains the foundation of the conversation, the broader message is about creating a thoughtful approach to building and preserving wealth over a lifetime. Jonathan breaks down the critical difference between information and noise, arguing that today's investing culture encourages short attention spans and emotional decision-making. He explains why quick takes, viral videos, and market panic often distract investors from what actually matters: data, education, and careful analysis. Instead of chasing headlines or trying to keep up with social media success stories, he encourages listeners to consume deeper sources of information, verify what they learn, and build confidence through experience rather than hype. Throughout the episode, Jonathan shares how long-term investors behave differently during uncertain markets. Rather than panicking when prices fall or rushing into deals because of fear of missing out, they patiently evaluate opportunities, stick to their investment principles, and understand that wealth is created through consistency over decades, not dramatic short-term wins. He reflects on his own investing journey, including lessons from 2008, his approach to passive investing through syndications, and why walking away from deals has often been one of his greatest strengths. Ultimately, this episode is about learning to filter out distractions and develop the mindset necessary for sustainable wealth creation. Jonathan argues that financial mindfulness means making intentional decisions, trusting your research, and accepting that you don't need every opportunity to succeed. By slowing down, staying curious, and focusing on long-term thinking, investors can build not only stronger portfolios but also greater confidence and peace of mind. In this episode, you will hear: Why distinguishing between information and noise is essential for long-term investing How social media, headlines, and market panic encourage short-term thinking Why patient investors often outperform those constantly chasing the next opportunity How Jonathan evaluates deals by focusing on data, education, and long-term strategy What financial mindfulness looks like when everyone else is reacting to the latest market trends Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover the show and supports its continued growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Jonathan: Podcast - www.zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com YouTube - www.youtube.com/JonathanGreenere Instagram - www.instagram.com/zenrealestateinvesting Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting Jonathan's Hub Site - www.trustgreene.com Brokerage - https://www.streamlined.properties This episode was produced by Outlier Audio .

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  Episode #364

  364: Why I Stopped Chasing Deals and Started Building Wealth

  Jul 22, 202645 min

  On this solo episode of Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing, Jonathan Greene explores the difference between chasing deals and actually building long-term wealth. Drawing from his own investing career, he reflects on the moments that changed his mindset, from flipping houses and accumulating properties to focusing on thoughtful investing, patience, and financial mindfulness. Rather than celebrating volume or social media metrics, Jonathan argues that the goal of real estate investing should always be creating lasting wealth that supports the life you want to live. Throughout the episode, Jonathan shares candid stories about deals that went wrong, expensive lessons that shaped his investing philosophy, and why slowing down ultimately made him a better investor. He explains how chasing the next opportunity often creates unnecessary stress, while carefully evaluating opportunities leads to stronger decisions and more sustainable growth. By comparing active investing with reactive investing, he highlights the importance of controlling emotions, checking your ego, and making decisions based on long-term strategy instead of adrenaline or fear of missing out. Jonathan also discusses how his portfolio has evolved over time, including his transition from active investing to more passive real estate investments through syndications. He explains why appreciation has always mattered more to him than simply accumulating more properties, and why patience has become one of the most valuable investment tools in his arsenal. Along the way, he challenges listeners to rethink common investing metrics like door count and instead focus on building assets that truly improve their financial future. Ultimately, this episode is a reminder that wealth is not measured by how many deals you complete or how busy you appear. It's built through thoughtful decisions, disciplined investing, and a willingness to play the long game. Jonathan encourages investors to stop chasing opportunities simply for the sake of activity and instead create a portfolio that provides freedom, stability, and generational wealth. In this episode, you will hear: Why collecting deals is not the same as building wealth The dangers of chasing more doors instead of stronger investments How active investors differ from reactive investors and why mindset matters Why patience, appreciation, and financial mindfulness create better long-term results How Jonathan's investing philosophy shifted from constant deal-making to intentional wealth-building Follow and Review If you enjoy the show, please follow Zen and the Art of Real Estate Investing on Apple Podcasts and leave a rating and review. It helps other listeners discover the show and supports its continued growth. Supporting Resources Connect with Jonathan: Podcast - www.zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting.com YouTube - www.youtube.com/JonathanGreenere Instagram - www.instagram.com/zenrealestateinvesting Instagram - www.instagram.com/trustgreene Bigger Pockets - www.biggerpockets.com/users/TrustGreene Facebook - www.facebook.com/zenandtheartofrealestateinvesting Jonathan's Hub Site - www.trustgreene.com Brokerage - https://www.streamlined.properties This episode was produced by Outlier Audio .

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